I must commend you, Irene, your answer to Peter Parady is well
written and well founded.

I too am a health professional with a special interest in
gastrointestinal issues such as diabetes, gluten sensitive
enteropathy, IBS, Crohn’s, etc.
My newest book titled "AT RISK? Dealing Naturally With DIABETES And
Other Conditions Responding To Lifestyle Changes" is due out later
this year. In it I describe in detail the connections between
carbohydrate intake, inflammatory responses and blood sugar
instabilities.
I will post a note to this site once the book is available in the USA.

In the meantime, hang in there and keep supporting the members of
this group in their attempts to live a healthy drug-free life despite
pre-diabetes or diabetes.

On a note:
Are you aware that at present at least 43% of the North-American
population carries a gene that makes them potentially sensitive to
one of three grain proteins contained in gluten (the storage factor
in grains such as wheat, barley (malt, cereals), rye, oat, spelt, and
triticale)?
It just so happens that this same HLA-DQ8 factor is also common to
many diabetics. A good reason to avoid all grain carbs (100%) for
those who may be affected! - Here in Canada the rate of people
potentially affected by gluten-sensitivity in the Maritime provinces
seems to be closer to eighty percent in those with an Irish, British,
Scottish or native Indian or Mediterranean background…

To all of you:
keep working WITH your body not against it!

Rivkah Roth DO, DNM, D.Ac, D.TCM
Ontario-Canada

PS: In the interest of our patients I would be happy to hear from all
of the health professionals in this group - maybe we can get started
making a bigger difference yet as a team.

I agree that diet and exercise are a very good approach, but even with a great
diet (went to diabetes nutrition class) am finding my AM (upon waking) readings
are higher than I want (140+). I take insulin and medication and am finding my
evening dose of insulin 70/30 seems to help, but the evening and am doses are
quite a bit different (96 units PM and 72 units AM). Even with the lower dose in
the AM I have to be careful or I’ll end up in trouble around midday with levels
below 75-. Suggestions?

I also find the readings of Mr. Stickler and his comments damaging. I’ll just
say this: if my readings ever drop below 80 I sweat and get shaky, around 75 and
I better be sitting down, below 70 as reported by those around me (because I’m
out of it and don’t know what I’m doing) I’m not functioning.

Mr. Stickler please be careful, other lives could be damaged!!

Peter Parady wrote:
> I have been diabetic for 4 years now, and have struggled with it.
After 3 years of treatment by my primary doctor, she left the medical
field entirely and I discovered from my next doctor, that I had been
severly under-medicated. >>

That’s one way to look at it.
Another is to say you were overeating carbohydrates considering the
state of your pancreas.

Some of us consider it reponsible to eat only as much as the damaged
pancreas can handle comfortably without raising blood sugar:-))

It’s not all of us who feel we should eat whatever we wish and just add
more medication!

> With the Help of the Second Doctor, my Quarterly readings have
improved to a ‘non-diabetic’ levels. My daily tests, throughout the day
and in the evenings have also been good (67-92)>>

67 is not good, and even 92 is very questionable.
There is as much damage (or more?) done by low sugars as by high sugars
per research. In addition the lack of dietary reduction in carbohydrates
means that these inflammatory items are going to do harm to the body
anyway. It is not only the high blood glucose that does it - it is the
carbs themselves which cause cell wall inflammation by glycation and
free radical damage.

In other words there is not a better way to control diabetes for
*health* than to restrict carbohydrates to those your pancreas can
handle without a bunch of medication - and to eat anti-inflamamtory
foods in the first place, instead of inflammatory ones.

It’s quite an art and an education to get it right- but it is the
healthiest approach and it works.

> However, over the last 3-4 weeks I have noticed consistently high
readings in the mornings (130-180) if have fasted from 6PM - 6 AM, the
readings are high, If I have eaten late (10 PM) the readings are still
in the same range. One evening, I forgot my medicine, the readings were
still in that range, not higher. Another evening I had a single 12 0z
beer before going to bed (10:30 PM) and the readings remained in that
range. I listed all that to show that no matter what I am doing
positive or negative, it seems to have no impact on the levelsin the
morning. >>

It means you are looking at the wrong things IMO.
Your carbohydrate versus protein intake and your ANTI-inflamamtory foods
versus inflamamtory ones - and your omega-3 from fish oil versus
inflamamtory plant oils - to cite a few examples.
My fasting glucose is around 92 consistently after eating an
anti-inflammatory diet for some time. (I brought it down from 189.)

<< I will discuss this with my doctor on my next visit, but I was
wondering what the members of the group now about this kind of
situation, as I am sure it cannot be unique to me.>>

I’m sure it is a very common problem - but I am very much convinced
(personally and professionally as a health professional) that diet is
the problem and the solution:-)
And doctors are unversed in clinical nutrition so you are likely to get
the standard ADA story instead of an anti-inflamamtory diet.
(Dr Nicholas Perricone has books on the latter.)

Good for you to investigate further to get it right for you.
I had a rough day today - so please do not take a possibly harsh tone
personally - that is just my awful day making grumbles, and I hope I
included something you can see positively.

NAmaste,
IRene

–
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

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That’s one way to look at it.
Another is to say you were overeating carbohydrates considering the
state of your pancreas.

Some of us consider it reponsible to eat only as much as the damaged
pancreas can handle comfortably without raising blood sugar:-))

It’s not all of us who feel we should eat whatever we wish and just add
more medication!

> With the Help of the Second Doctor, my Quarterly readings have
improved to a ‘non-diabetic’ levels. My daily tests, throughout the day
and in the evenings have also been good (67-92)>>

67 is not good, and even 92 is very questionable.
There is as much damage (or more?) done by low sugars as by high sugars
per research. In addition the lack of dietary reduction in carbohydrates
means that these inflammatory items are going to do harm to the body
anyway. It is not only the high blood glucose that does it - it is the
carbs themselves which cause cell wall inflammation by glycation and
free radical damage.

In other words there is not a better way to control diabetes for
*health* than to restrict carbohydrates to those your pancreas can
handle without a bunch of medication - and to eat anti-inflamamtory
foods in the first place, instead of inflammatory ones.

It’s quite an art and an education to get it right- but it is the
healthiest approach and it works.

> However, over the last 3-4 weeks I have noticed consistently high
readings in the mornings (130-180) if have fasted from 6PM - 6 AM, the
readings are high, If I have eaten late (10 PM) the readings are still
in the same range. One evening, I forgot my medicine, the readings were
still in that range, not higher. Another evening I had a single 12 0z
beer before going to bed (10:30 PM) and the readings remained in that
range. I listed all that to show that no matter what I am doing
positive or negative, it seems to have no impact on the levelsin the
morning. >>

It means you are looking at the wrong things IMO.
Your carbohydrate versus protein intake and your ANTI-inflamamtory foods
versus inflamamtory ones - and your omega-3 from fish oil versus
inflamamtory plant oils - to cite a few examples.
My fasting glucose is around 92 consistently after eating an
anti-inflammatory diet for some time. (I brought it down from 189.)

<< I will discuss this with my doctor on my next visit, but I was
wondering what the members of the group now about this kind of
situation, as I am sure it cannot be unique to me.>>

I’m sure it is a very common problem - but I am very much convinced
(personally and professionally as a health professional) that diet is
the problem and the solution:-)
And doctors are unversed in clinical nutrition so you are likely to get
the standard ADA story instead of an anti-inflamamtory diet.
(Dr Nicholas Perricone has books on the latter.)

Good for you to investigate further to get it right for you.
I had a rough day today - so please do not take a possibly harsh tone
personally - that is just my awful day making grumbles, and I hope I
included something you can see positively.

NAmaste,
IRene