numbers

the little book that came with my
vampyre machynne says that 90-120
is >"excellent".
i am so confused.

63 Responses to “numbers”

  1. John Smith Says:

    Hi Rachel, I suppose you have tried eliminating
    gluten ?
    It must be very frustrating , but I’m sure there are
    answers. If you think you might have gastric issues
    you could check out this site
    www.enterolab.com.
    These guys do stool testing , and gene testing . They
    send you everything you need and you mail back your
    "deposit", and cheek swab, (via overnite carrier which
    picks up your package ), if you are getting tested for
    genes like celiac / gluten intolerance/casein
    intolerance . Stool testing is more accurate than
    blood testing and you don’t need a biopsy.
    You can do a bit of research at the site . They have
    lots of info about intestinal stuff, malabsorption etc

    etc.
    Liz

  2. Dave Smith Says:

    Per the ADA it is excellent and vampire machines talk the ADA talk.
    A healthy person without diabetes will never go over 90.
    So YOU decide what you feel is excellent for you:-)

    Following ADA guidelines will never make you healthy. It’s a choice. Do
    what ADA says because it is the "official okay position" or learn more,
    set your own standards and get healthy.

    Namaste,
    Irene

  3. Dave Smith Says:

    Rachel - do you have Bernstein’s book? He talks about the stomach
    emptying issue and explains it….
    Don’t give up, you are too important:-))

    Namaste,
    Irene

  4. Endy Smith Says:

    hi irene :-) curiosity got to me,
    so i just counted ‘em.
    25 letters
    6 periods
    3 commas
    and a forward slash.
    that’s one hell of a string
    of honourifics.
    respectfully,
    Dennis

    Per the ADA it is excellent and vampire machines talk the ADA talk.
    A healthy person without diabetes will never go over 90.
    So YOU decide what you feel is excellent for you:-)

    Following ADA guidelines will never make you healthy. It’s a choice. Do
    what ADA says because it is the "official okay position" or learn more,
    set your own standards and get healthy.

    Namaste,
    Irene

    Irene de Villiers, B.Sc, AASCA, MCSSA, D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
    P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
    www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
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  5. John Smith Says:

    WOw, what a nightmare Rachel . It does sound like
    your body is suffering from a few layers of problems
    . But our bodies were once and can again be the
    friends they were designed to be , before conflicts
    , estrangement , and wrong food took over . They need
    to be loved back and accepted back .
    Also I REALLY believe that we all really "Know"
    instinctively what our sickness is about and we each
    Know how to heal . We just have to get quiet and tap
    that inner knowledge .Each person has their own innate
    intelligence; it doesn’t matter how far gone their
    "mind" is either .
    Good Healers are just there for support . They don’t
    "know " you as well as you know yourself . They merely
    need to lend you the confidence to trust yourself and

    your intuition .
    Of course doctors are often flakey , or discouraging,
    or else try to fix you with specific treatments or
    approaches , none of which may be that relevant to
    your healing process by themselves. But at the end of
    the day we have to take charge as much as possible ,
    call to "God" ;the Universe , or whatever you can
    believe in that basically represents the greater power
    of a Spirit that represents all Good; The Essence Of
    Love , to provide the right opportunities and people
    and healing influences in your life . And believe that
    you deserve t full health and healing . IT IS YOUR
    BIRTHRIGHT . AND whatever has gone wrong ,the effects
    on your body can be reversed . Just nature alone
    allowed to work is a survivor and a healer .
    Solutions and people who help will come when you ask,
    and let go of whatever is left that is blocking you.
    You may pass through some healing challenges again ,
    but don’t give up on your self . Your body is trying
    to work for you . Maybe ask your body what it needs .
    It will come to you, somehow , and you can feel
    better as you start to take soeme steps in faith ,
    that good will happen.

  6. John Smith Says:

    So , if you know that it is gluten and casein , and
    you know you are addicted , and the consequences ,
    then there are a couple of things I know from a friend
    who was a food addict also with allergy/ addiction to
    gluten .
    She went back and forth /off/on the allergens ,until
    she got to the point where she realized it was self
    sabotaging ,I guess, and that she would never get her
    future together . I know she went through some
    temporary depression struggling wihth it all.
    She joined Overeaters Anonymous , 12 steps , like AA.
    She is off all wheat and sugar . She is sponsored and
    she sponsors others , and spends a couple of hours on
    the phone in the early a.m doing this . This
    reinforces her progress and keeps her on track and

    honest . She has lost tons of weight , grown in self
    confidence, lowered her prediabetic symptoms , etc
    and started a holistic health business helping others
    like herself .SHe is doing and looking great. She
    knows that to touch wheat sugar and alcohol would put
    her injeopardy and she has committed heself to
    stayaway from it .
    Her health has gotten to where she would never go
    back .
    And one other thing , because I have to go, but As
    you start to cleanse from addictive substances , of
    course there will be that pull , the withdrawal and
    depression . As you go into withdrawal that may also
    be the time to let go of the emotional aspects which
    keep you going back . You will probably need a lot of
    support . Check out OA and see if they can help you .
    L Glutamine - the amino acid ,is supposed to help
    with sugar , alcohol addiction withdrawal . L
    tyrosine too helps with caffein type substance
    addiction , and cke . Check out NUtritional healing by
    Phyllis Balch an excellent source for nutritional an
    d supplemental supposrt for every condition .
    Liz Nelson

  7. Dave Smith Says:

    Hee hee - never saw it that way before. I guess it lacks a few
    punctuations, I need to try for the odd @ # or ^?

    Namaste,
    Irene

  8. Endy Smith Says:

    no need to change a thing.
    it’s got Pinache.

    The Reverend Doctor Dennis Garrett, D.D., Esq., PiHAD.

    Hee hee - never saw it that way before. I guess it lacks a few
    punctuations, I need to try for the odd @ # or ^?

    Namaste,
    Irene

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  9. Dave Smith Says:

    rachel mason wrote: My current md is also
    > alternative, so treated me at first with complex homeopathics

    I’ve never seen great stuff from "complex homeopathics". They go against
    the very basis of homeopathy - the principles of nature on which
    homeopathy is based. In my opinion you can not change the principles of
    nature. It takes a LOT of years to learn to use homeopathy based on its
    proper principles. The complex stuff is supposed to cut through all that
    and guess at a remedy by lumping a whole lot together and hoping that
    one of them works and is not antidoted by another in the mix!!! Well
    once in a while it helps by chance, but classical homeopaths who do the
    time and know the basics, abhor that practice. It CAN "graft" your
    symptoms (cement them more firmly instead of helping them by providing a
    really bad remedy match in the mix. Classical homeopathy makes sure the
    remedy chosen is a good match as then it can not do harm.)

    Possibly the mix caused suppression of your symptoms. A mismatched
    remedy that suits one symptom (usually physical) but not your entire
    system (including emotional), can achieve that. That would explain not
    making further progress, and would explain having emotional issues
    unresolved.

    ???
    I’ll not comment. I am not a naturopath.

    > Bernsteins book is expensive - but i read what i could
    > online

    It is expensive but I still think it was a good investment. I got it
    delivered for US$20 on ebay. Don’t get the book store price!

    This kind of thing is addressed in classical homeopathy - but I
    sympathize with the financial situation (mine is still shoestring too)
    as a homeopath will want to be paid too.

    > I can’t find the proper
    > order to cook meals in and stop and start many steps all over the place

    I tended to be that way as well due to high cortisol. I’ve improved but
    I found it helpful to write lists all over the place and other
    techniques. for example on a little white board I wrote what I needed to
    do in order (copied from my book of recipes I put together) and wiped
    off the white board one item at a time as I did it.

    I still have memory issues that have to come right. I can’t remember
    whether I have swallowed essential tablets for example (potassium and
    magnesium for a kidney defect that has to be taken every 3 or 4 hours
    but which will cause a heart attack if doubled). So I have to set aside
    a day’s worth in one place so I can count to see if a particular dose
    was taken that day yet or not.

    > and am embarrassed to cook in front of people.

    Don’t be. See if the white board thing helps? Or ask the people to bring
    a pot luck instead. I have had to develop all kinds of coping
    strategies, people who do not experience this can have no idea how
    isolating and difficult it is to deal with. They think you just have to
    "plan better" and do not understand that the process of planning is
    what’s so hard to do. I find it helps to break it down into smaller and
    smaller steps, and use a list. My lists had to be short too or I forget
    line one when I arrive at line 8. I put "must be completed today no
    matter what" items in red. I put fun items in green. I try to alternate
    to keep stress levels down. (For me it was/is all about stress due to
    the cortisol being the cause.)

    VEry frustrating for you.
    I did get a lot from Bernstein’s book to help me.
    I chose a favourite meal, and had it three times in a row, testing
    before/after, so I know for that meal what was what.
    Every now and then, I tested another meal to add to my list of known
    response meals.

    > so sorting out gluten or allergies or anything is almsot impossible for
    > me to organize in my own head - i get so lost so easily.

    Does your state allow primary care from an ARNP (Advanced Registered
    nurse Practitioner) instead of a doctor?
    WA state here does allow it, and my ARNP is wonderful with this - I
    suggest it for you as a nursing person is more understanding of these
    kinds of issues and will help you more than a doctor can.

    Have you looked at blood type diet - eating only what is okay for your
    blood type - to be sure you do not eat what will react badly with your
    blood type?

    HEre too an ARNP will be more inclined to stick with it and help you
    find a doctor to refer you to who DOES get to the bottom of it.
    My ARNP is the only one who understands my weird situation - but she
    refers me where needed for medical issues and I do not have to fight
    that myself.

    > Taht i have to keep
    > pushing my gp and he is lost, but don’t refer me.

    Get an ARNP to do the work:-))

    > Oh, i found out the hard way i am allergic to insulin

    I am allergic to the humulin - the insulin from human source - but I can
    tolerate small amounts of the artificial insulin (Novolog) in 2 units at
    a time not more. It’s the *preservative* in the insulin that affects me
    and they all have the same preservative.

    Classical homeopath would be my suggestion PLUS an ARNP to do all the
    "fighting" on your behalf. You do not need the stress!

    Hang in there - I sure hope you find yourself in a better situation soon.

    Namaste,
    Irene

  10. John Smith Says:

    Hi ,
    I am getting a kick out of some of these names and
    email addresses. "The wrong hands " -forgive me but
    I’m thinking of "the wrong trousers " a claymation
    Wallace and Gromet story. And furryboots , I really
    like that . I thought my email was pretty unusual
    (Bushwoman was actually meant to convey living in the
    "Bush" as in bushmen of the Kalahari and living in
    the wild , but noone takes it that way!

  11. Endy Smith Says:

    once upon a time an author was asked what might hapen if the
    information in his book fell into the wrong hand, and mr cosimano
    said it was too late, "The Wrong Hands" wrote the book.
    i liked it, i used it.
    Dennis

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  12. Dave Smith Says:

    liz nelson wrote: And furryboots , I really
    > like that .

    Thanks - named for my cats actually. Norwegian Forest Cats have these
    fascinating knickerbockers as a "furstyle" and my first sighting of this
    breed was from behind and so the "furry boots" were very evident.
    I registered my cattery name as Furry Boots and the rest is history:-)

    It’s fun hearing how other people’s "handles" originated:

    Well I shall be "noone" then, I was raised near the Kalahari desert in
    South Africa, so it makes perfect sense to me:-)

    Namaste,
    Irene

  13. Endy Smith Says:

    guys can turn every single thing that
    a woman says into smirking innuendo.
    it doesn’t matter if you’re talking about draining pus
    or falling into flaming sewage, it can be
    an ocasion for smirks and nudges and high 5’s.
    i blame the media.
    Dennis

    Thanks - named for my cats actually. Norwegian Forest Cats have these
    fascinating knickerbockers as a "furstyle" and my first sighting of this
    breed was from behind and so the "furry boots" were very evident.
    I registered my cattery name as Furry Boots and the rest is history:-)

    It’s fun hearing how other people’s "handles" originated:


    Well I shall be "noone" then, I was raised near the Kalahari desert in
    South Africa, so it makes perfect sense to me:-)

    Namaste,
    Irene

    Irene de Villiers, B.Sc, AASCA, MCSSA, D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
    P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
    www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
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  14. John Smith Says:

    Also on the gluten subject , you asked how I managed
    to get off gluten .
    After I had the kids and myself tested for
    intolerances through enterolab.com ,( which found all
    of us should be off it- the kids had symptoms and
    also also had one of the known celiac genes , and I
    had a gluten intolerant gene), I tried to get them
    slowly on board about "gluten free" and I also
    eliminated milk for myself for a month and then
    brought it back in the form of raw dairy to see if it
    would make a difference . As good as the raw milk was
    it still gave me a headache to go back on it.
    Meanwhile I was encouraged to try sprouted grainbreads
    (Ezekiel breads ) which I did for a while , (But
    probably shouldn’t have done because I still needed to

    truly eliminate gluten grains ), because I was raised
    in Britain and we LOVE our toast and butter!
    Since my daughters diagnosis a month ago I have
    dropped any and all bread , ( i needed to know that I
    could do it if I was going to ask her to do it ), and
    if I have it "absent mindedly" I find it wipes me out
    . Actually I have found that now I find more
    interesting and nourishing things to eat . Many people
    feel that if you can’t eat bread , somehow you will
    somehow starve , but I think that "feeling" is really
    the allergy/addiction calling the brain to "fix" with
    gluten . In reality there is plenty of stuff to eat .
    If you need other grains , there’s brown rice and
    quinoa , and thats waht I like , but not every day .
    Some days I might have potatos or sweet potatoes .
    For my daughter ,to encourage her to not feel deprived
    I bought a lot of soy snacks , some Red Mills pancake
    mix which she said was actually O. K , gluten free
    cookies etc . Of course I want us to get into raw and
    away from processed foods , but this is O. K until I
    get her/us into something like the programm at the
    creative Health Institute , in Michigan or , get a raw
    foods chef or all of the above. I am type O" and that
    may help me because I don’t like processed carbs like
    pasta very much or white rice. I tend to pick the meat
    and veg out of a dish which has a lot of "stodge" . I
    am not a big sweet eater either . I have started
    making frozen fruit smoothies for my daughter , and
    have been adding "sunrider" whole food supplements to
    them. I think I will probably adapt pretty well to a
    raw foods diet with some free range meat , and so will
    my kids . I anticipate that my home will be like a
    whole different planet when I get going on this,
    Liz
    Actually cooking always drove me crazy and I never
    felt satisfied , and I was always unsure how to really
    feed the kids , and I knew they were gravitating
    towards empty foods , even before I decided to get
    them tested . If we can learn together now , about
    food that satisfies and the difference between those
    foods and the addiction forming nutritionally poor
    foods , I feel we will be light years ahaed , happier
    and healthier . If I can get them all gluten free, I
    know I will end the brain fog issues , my son has
    something of as well as me .
    I my self was so miserable and depressed and
    underfunctioning and anxious when I was growing up ,
    and most of my adulthood too I feel I only continued
    in the same vein . In recent years , I started to be
    suspicious that ADD type problems , inability to
    organize , plan , engage , was a food problem and then
    a gluten problem . I went to this holistc nutrition
    school in NYC , and along the way started to read
    about grains . "Going against the grain " By Melissa
    Diane Smith was where I found out about the lab ,
    enterolab .
    I could not really get the kids to eat better or
    totally grt off gluten at that time .But books and
    the lab convinced me of the connection between gluten
    and brain fog / depression / autoimmune diseases /
    schizophrenia /IBS/ collitis / bowel cancers / asthma
    / MS /etc etc . It made total sense to me as did the
    various authors theories that a probable 70% of the
    country , and maybe the world is intolerant enough of
    gluten , for it to make them really sick, quietly, in
    largely untraceable ways . Gluten in combination with
    high sugar / high artificial sweetener, hydrogenated
    fats , msg , hydrolyzed proteins , sugar alcohols,
    processed and packaged low nutritional content
    foods, extruded ,boxed cereals , cows mik /
    pesticides / additives etc is largely responsible for
    what looks like a general collapse of public health,
    both physical and mental . This food also makes us
    sitting ducks for the pharmaceutical industry , health
    insurance , etc .
    One of the reasons that we don’t "know " it is that
    these lousy foods keep us "down" , mystified , and
    suffering, and addicted . As soon as we get them out
    of our system we feel better and perceive differently
    , look and behave very differently , and lose our
    passivity , and fogginess around fighting for our
    health and political rights around doctors and
    government and the food and pharmaceutical industry .

    .

  15. John Smith Says:

    Wrong hands- Actually girls too thought I might be
    being inappropriate with my email address!
    Furryboots, - my parents had a cat called Wellington
    as in Wellington boot after Lord Wellington who
    popularized big black weatherproof boots. This was
    ironic because the cat was all black except for his
    long WHITE boots! I am a cat person too.

  16. Endy Smith Says:

    milk is toxic waste. it causes prostate and other cancers.
    milk is allowed to have 50 MILLION pus cells per cup.
    it has blood and faeces in it. not to mentio the 144+
    steroids and other chemicals cattle are pumped full of.
    look at:
    www.notmilk.com
    www.milksucks.com
    www.webmd.com
    it’s killing calves.
    it’s killing people.
    mothers milk is even worse.
    in any other package it would
    be labeled unfit for human use.
    for pete’s sake avoid mild and dairy products.
    Dennis

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  17. John Smith Says:

    Yes it’s definitely testosterone, but you are right,
    that it is possible that it’s contageous , because I
    do have one friendship where, following his lead with
    the innuendo , I learned perhaps to anticipate , and
    to say those shocking things first and pretty quickly
    I have become the "outrageous" one.
    Liz

  18. Endy Smith Says:

    i don’t really blame the media.
    i was just passing the buck.
    Dennis

    Not me. I blame Testosterone. We don’t even have TV in our home yet
    my husband rarely misses an ‘opportunity’ to transform the innocent
    into, well, something else. I used to roll my eyes and protest, but
    lately I’ve been shocking us both by seeing it before he does
    sometimes. Not sure this exactly qualifies as "evolving to a higher
    plane", but laughter can’t be all bad. -LR

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  19. John Smith Says:

    Hi Rachel ,
    I think I just wrote this bit to Connie, when I meant
    to send it to you because you were struggling with all
    the digestive issues, as an extension of my answer to
    you on food issues/gluten etc which you were asking
    about in one of your letters yesterday .
    Liz

  20. Endy Smith Says:

    don’t believe most of what you’ve read about harem’s,
    solomon not withstanding.
    they were not the see’s candy store of recreational sex.
    they were usually stocked by the potentate’s mother.
    her interests were strictly dynastic. if fatima happened
    to be a looker, so much the better, but not important to mama.
    Dennis

    I was talking about this with a friend recently. This is getting WAY off
    topic, but fun :) Look at King Solomon, he had 700 wives and 300 concubines, and kept them
    all incredibly satisfied and happy, and was the wisest man in the
    world. That meant at the very least he was ‘doing it’ 3 times a day,
    that’s with one wife one time per year, and no women is satisfied with
    only that. So any guy that can keep that many women happy, certainly

    has his fill of sex, gets it off his mind, and THEN can run a kingdom
    properly! lol

    Sex is a divine connection. Hard wired into us (look at it in terms of
    brain waves and not religion), but with a clean consciousness for the
    purpose of love and unity, not for selfindulgence. When a guy has that
    kind of cosmic connection and stays in the brain wave state of theta, he
    also is satisfied, comes from a place of oneness with the universe, and
    can finally think clearly. The media just expands on what is already on
    our minds and plays it up for the wrong purposes.

    rachel

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  21. John Smith Says:

    Wait a minute ,
    I don’t think it’s possible in real space and time
    for one guy to keep a thousand women happy. There has
    got to be 99% "down" time for most of those women
    sitting around ,unless you were in his top 3#!!! Sure
    he was getting all the sex he wanted , and plenty of
    variety / diversity of opportunities to pass on sperm
    (Darwin), but hmm , what about the womens "Needs" ?
    How come there are no male hareems for queens ?
    Maybe in Darwinian terms we just don’t need them?

  22. John Smith Says:

    Interesting. So three wives for e.g.wouldn’t be
    enough for keeping the bloodline going , or was it to
    make sure he didn’t have to go outside the Palace to
    get something more interesting . If all the most
    beautiful virgin women are already on hand , then I
    suppose that cancels out the need and the time
    consuming work of going hunting for women "outside".
    Also if you are the king you would expect to have
    everything you could possibly want just handed to
    you.

  23. Endy Smith Says:

    as i understand it, by muslim law a man can have more than one wife.
    but every wife has to be… umm… affectioned, no later than every third
    day. what they usually did was a minute or two with each haremee, saving
    the last for his mothers current favourite.
    consequently, most of the women in harems were hope-to-die lesbians,
    and more than one man lost something vital sneaking into the harem
    thinking he’d be welcome when it just wasn’t so.
    Dennis

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  24. Endy Smith Says:

    nope, i never did a history of harems.
    i burn testosterone and i read a lot.
    Dennis

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  25. John Smith Says:

    Rachel , How do we know if this kind of Tantric sex
    I think you are describing was part of Judaism at the
    time ? I think the harem thing still comes down to
    something more basic, darwinian , testosteroni,
    bloodlines , etc etc and fuedalism , ie the "droit du
    Seineur" (even tho I know William the conqueror wasn’t
    in this movie!) Liz

  26. Endy Smith Says:

    first, i’ll weasel out of part of it by saying i said >"solomon
    not withstanding".
    and judiasm never had harems.
    different strokes for different national harems, i guess.
    the khans were avid collectors.
    Dennis

    This was not recreational sex. This was worship of God and Goddess, a
    very different intention, which meant time and pleasure, altered states
    of consciousness not just orgasm. And i agree it was all about
    bloodlines. It still is ;) So the ‘harem’ was all of the same royal
    bloodline, and the Jewish laws forbid ‘outside’ sex, so they could not
    have been just any woman off the streets - they were all ‘royalty’ of
    the same bloodlines, so could not have been treated that way.


    I do know other cultures sold their children into a harem for service,
    and women were taken from all kinds of places. I just think the
    bloodline thing in this sitautin means that could not have been possible
    in this situation. But, i could very well be wrong.

    So, we are back to testosterone! lol
    rachel

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  27. Endy Smith Says:

    >"weasel" is one of the basic chemical components of
    testosterone. it bonds with the "jerk who can’t be trusted"
    gene inseperably and is responsible for the syndrome called
    "please-honey-baby-lemme-back-in-i’ll-never-do-it-again-i-swear".
    Dennis

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  28. John Smith Says:

    Hi Rachel .
    I had wanted to talk about that whole planning ,
    organizing thing , because I notice when I’m upset,
    which may be chronically, ( I know that I have low
    cortisol) I can’t focus or plan ahead . When I was a
    kid I was told that I was "not trying" , needed " to
    pull my socks up", needed to "keep my wits" about me.
    I have report cards (actually report books ) from
    kindergarten that say things like "Is often confused".
    Attatchments were hard too, and I would get
    disappointed if I expected to be with someone who
    didn’t show,or went off with someone else . I became
    rather passive with friendships.
    HAted most of school as the grades went on
    especially math, which I am still pretty phobic about

    , especially having to do math infront of others .
    Through school and college I took longer on
    assignments than my peers , and although I tried and
    worked hard ,often the results were apparently not
    good enough for the teachers , who let me know that I
    was being lazy or had a bad attitude. This always
    offended me especially when I felt I had worked hard.
    Then my mom took the stance of acting tough with me ,
    which was really punishing to me because I couldn’t
    see how I could do better.

    When I started looking into food, nutrition and the
    brain , I began searching for answers about why , if I
    was supposed to be intelligent(?) , I had a problem
    with routine assignments and projects. I knew there
    were a couple of things, focus , concentration , or
    lack of the latter and a general sense of doom ,
    sadness or panic , especially when I knew that
    something might not get done, which was what I
    generally feared as soon as I got given it . Also a
    fear of doing any presentations .My kids do this stuff
    fairly routinely with varying ease, although my
    youngest sometimes has problems . To me everything
    created fear and panic. Over the years I variously
    attributed these aspects of my personality to
    retardation , fear , sadness and more fear .
    I did not think that food could be involved . Later in
    my 40’s I decided that I was probably ADD as a child
    before it was a label , then that gave me some relief
    from feeling all those years of stigma . The other
    possibility was trauma, and there were some randomly
    negligent type of things like being seaparated from my
    moom when she had morning sickness with my sister when
    I was 9 months , but nothing like really serious or
    violent . My parents were kind of anxious and
    controling though and not too sympathetic .
    THe next thing for me was to connect the food idea
    to the ADD . Gluten was the main reason, I thought
    ,for anxiety and brain fog along with the suspicion
    theat I might have been depleted in all the minerals
    and B vitamins which are necessary for brain
    functioning and also keep you anxiety free, which can
    be connected to malabsorption caused by allergens in
    the stomach including gluten and milk.
    Photos of me as a baby showed that I was very happy
    though intersetingly very overwieght , because my Mom
    was feeding me a formula , having given up breast
    feeding because of a cyst or something . I think My
    weird obesity as an infant might also show milk or
    cereal intolerance.
    Since my daughter was diagnozed with type ! I went
    totally gluten free , myself . Statred using some
    Sunrider food supplements and drinking gree juice
    powders again . If nothing else I feel I will keep my
    strength up as I try to help her . I pretty much feel
    like a failure though , and that the resposibilityI
    feel is overwhelming . Perhaps this overwhelm is still
    part of my tendency to panic and anxiety .
    I am thinking that I may need to check into the
    Creative HEalth Institute in Michigan even more than
    my daughter! I realize I have had a sense of
    oppression my whole life , and noew I think perhaps
    more than ever it was never about having a bad
    attitude , being lazy etc , it was /is about having
    enough B vitamins etc . Still ,grieving has to take
    place for the losses along the way and the sense of
    having never been free.
    Liz

  29. John Smith Says:

    Mannnnnnn!
    O.K you are going to get out of this , I swear .
    Slowly a bit at a time. You need support , acceptance
    , and people who accept that you are going to feel and
    experience all kinds of things and ups and downs
    before you get through , which we don’t understand.
    Cabbage juice has natural L glutamine in it too.
    (But do you have hypothyroid issues/? In which case I
    read don’t have cabbage and broccoli, which depress
    the thyroid < sorryeeee).
    But whatever , a bit at a time with support and info
    , you could get your health back . Don’t despair.
    Liz

  30. John Smith Says:

    The other thing you might have is a massive yeast ,
    which is likely and all by itself is a problem .
    Probiotics and other things can take care of this, as
    well as help your intestines sort themselves out .
    Although healing reactions to probiotics can include
    bloating etc.

    Whatever. I know you are sick and tired of trying ,
    and not getting anywhere or just getting into more
    suffering and confusion .
    How about just take a step at a time.
    Eliminate gluten first , and don’t do anything else .
    The take a few probiotics for the yeast . Then after
    after a couple of monthsor 3 months of gluten free, do
    some juicing

    Just slowly a stage at a time and stick to it .
    Heres a book about a guy who had crohns disease .
    "The makers diet" By Rubin I leant my copy out . He
    eliminated , added probiotics and did otherstuff. It
    took him a while, a lot of experimantation . A s the
    photos atest he could have died and his suffering and
    despair had to be immense . But slowly and
    methodically he and his parents a step at a time took
    him back to more than full health . He has a huge
    resource section in the back of the book . and recipes
    . Probiotics were a big component in his recovery.

  31. John Smith Says:

    The most useful herb for relieving alcohol cravings I have found is
    Chaparral tea. I used this and stopped all drinking for 2 years with
    no cravings. Only later did I find out that chaparral is used
    specifically for weaning one off of alcohol. (I only was drinking this
    nasty tasting tea for about 1 month at the beginning of the 2 years)

    I found this nice, because at the time, I recognized that occassional
    drinking was not great for the health and I decided to not drink until
    I wanted a drink. I did not want a beer for 2 years, which at the
    time was startling for me.

  32. John Smith Says:

    Dennis,

    I concur. Milk is bad bad bad. Conventional diary now has
    antibiotics thrown directly into the milk vats to cut down the
    bacteria levels. Then people eat or drink this and we wonder why
    intestinal problems are through the roof. Some people are daily
    eating antibiotics through dairy and this is destroying their
    intestinal flora. This causes malabsorption/no absorption of
    nutrients and allows yeast to flourish causing so many problems it is
    too much to even discuss.

    Brock

  33. John Smith Says:

    Hi may I ask what are glutten foods? Thanks, Connie

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    The other thing you might have is a massive yeast ,
    which is likely and all by itself is a problem .
    Probiotics and other things can take care of this, as
    well as help your intestines sort themselves out .
    Although healing reactions to probiotics can include
    bloating etc.

    Whatever. I know you are sick and tired of trying ,
    and not getting anywhere or just getting into more
    suffering and confusion .
    How about just take a step at a time.

    Eliminate gluten first , and don’t do anything else .
    The take a few probiotics for the yeast . Then after
    after a couple of monthsor 3 months of gluten free, do
    some juicing
    Just slowly a stage at a time and stick to it .
    Heres a book about a guy who had crohns disease .
    "The makers diet" By Rubin I leant my copy out . He
    eliminated , added probiotics and did otherstuff. It
    took him a while, a lot of experimantation . A s the
    photos atest he could have died and his suffering and
    despair had to be immense . But slowly and
    methodically he and his parents a step at a time took
    him back to more than full health . He has a huge
    resource section in the back of the book . and recipes
    . Probiotics were a big component in his recovery.

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  34. John Smith Says:

    The Caparral thing is good to know . I had not heard
    about it , Thanks

  35. John Smith Says:

    Gluten ,(You can look it up on that site I mentioned
    which offers lab testing - enterolab.com ,for a more
    comlete and accurate description), is what is made by
    combining the "flour", and specifically proteins in
    the "flour" with water or other fluids , from certain
    heavily used grains which include wheat, barley, oats
    . (I know there are more)
    WHeat gluten, I suppose is supposed to be the most
    offensive(maybe because we use it the most?) , but all
    grains that produce gluten are bad for the intestines
    . The proteins from these flours are harsh and can
    penetrate the gut walls causing leaky gut , and get
    into the blood stream and organs causing autoimmune
    reactions and diseases . Another affect of gluten is
    that it can "glue" up the intestinal walls coating the

    Villi which absorb food and suffocting them and
    preventing the absorpbtion of vitamins and minerals ,
    which itself contributes to disease conditions by
    depriving the body of things like the vital minerals
    and B vitmins .
    The grains that are toatlly gluten free include
    quinoa, amaranth , brown rice, buckwheat (kasha)(THe
    last one isn’t actually a grain ).
    Grains that are low in gluten include spelt, and the
    ezekiel breads which are made of sprouted grains have
    less gluten , but there is still gluten and if you are
    sick or even allergic / intolerant you should not eat
    any at all at least until you have been clear of them
    for a loooooong time ,probably years . Gluten is in
    many other foods apart from bread . Check out canned
    and boxed prepared foods. Wheat is in soups sauces ,
    gravies , puddings , chips , pizza and pizza type
    products, dumplings, tortillas etc ,salad dressings
    etc . It is used as a thickener in many products. If
    you want a non gluten thickener you can use kuzu root
    , but if you are sensitive to everything don’t try new
    things yet. Of course gluten is in pasta , unless
    you buy rice pastas ,which we now eat (cook it al
    dente) and couscous.
    Having replaced as much as I could in my house with
    gluten free products , for the kids ,I have, however
    noticed that I still fill sleepy or "foggy" even when
    eating ,say gluten free pancake mix or cookies etc . I
    think it’s because it is still a highly processed food
    which turns quickly to high blood sugar , and causes
    insulin shock, and I am sensitive (Although I haven’t
    started testing my blood sugar with my daughters
    monitor yet , but I proabbly should ).
    So now I don’t even bother much with the gluten free
    stuff and head for cellery / an apple / nuts or prunes
    /figs/avocado instead . (also I just got a shipment
    of goji berries). I also started using "SUnrider" food
    supplements and actually if I don’t Know what to eat I
    mix up a bunch of their hypoallergenic "Nu plus"
    concentrated food in water. I add this to smoothies
    too . It’s pretty tasteless so it can by added to
    anything . I have noticed this stuff stabilizes me ,
    and makes me feel content .
    We do not have any asthma in the family but we have
    excema , and a host of auto immune diseases , in the
    older generations , and bowel issues . The kids have a
    celiac gene, and a gluten intolerant gene . I have a
    gluten intolerant gene, this I found out as well as
    how intolerant we all are by stool testing throught
    the lab enterolab . The celiac dispostition is also
    connected to diabetes , and diabetes is one of the
    auto immune diseases which can be brought on by gluten
    and cows milk.

  36. John Smith Says:

    Rachel I was just reading Dr. Brenaars’ philosophy on
    healing >(Brock put in Brenaars web site) , which
    sort of concurs with the cleansing / healing
    reactions thing.
    BRenaar says that people who are recovering from
    "chronic " stages of diseases will revisit "critical"
    illness, and on down to the smallest symptons where
    they started . Healing process involves "retracing" .
    I suppose that means that if you are 16 you will go
    back through your childhood illnesses and traumas; if
    you are way older and have been sick a long time then
    inevitably you are going to go through layers of
    reversed phsyical and mental stufff , (including, I
    would add , all the effects and side affects of all
    the medications we took to suppress and repress the

    symptoms, and all the behaviors we used to suppress
    the symptoms , incl. food and alcohol , drugs etc ,
    (repressing symptoms is also not good as far as he is
    concerned ) Recovery is like like puting the movie
    on rewind.
    Liz

  37. Endy Smith Says:

    there is no good milk, organic or otherwise.
    it is a fluid from another species entirely
    and is meant only to be used pre-chew.
    no animal above infancy benifits from milk
    pus and faeces and blood is in the best of it.
    look up breast milk and chemical contamination.
    if they put it in a store they couldn’t legally sell it.
    the only possible benifit of nursing is the bonding.
    if breast fed kids are happier and better adjusted
    it is in spite of the toxic brew mom fed them,
    not because of it. the hard info is on the web
    so don’t take my word for it.
    milk. it does a body.
    Dennis


    I concur. Milk is bad bad bad. Conventional diary now has
    antibiotics thrown directly into the milk vats to cut down the
    bacteria levels. Then people eat or drink this and we wonder why
    intestinal problems are through the roof. Some people are daily
    eating antibiotics through dairy and this is destroying their
    intestinal flora. This causes malabsorption/no absorption of
    nutrients and allows yeast to flourish causing so many problems it is
    too much to even discuss.

    Brock

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  38. John Smith Says:

    I breast fed my kids for up to between 8 - 11 months
    . I know they all went through chollicky periods ,
    which I know was about what I was eating too.
    I did hear they have found residue from rocket fuel
    in breast milk , so it would make sense that the
    infant is getting whatever contaminents we , (the moms
    ) are exposed to . However I still think that a mom
    who watches her own health and diet is generally
    giving her baby something much better than cows milk
    formula , and there is no immitation for that flesh to
    flesh bonding, and comforting, or the
    developementally appropriate composition of the milk
    at all stages, and the immune transference too.

  39. Endy Smith Says:

    contaminants and pollutants collect in fats. milk is fat and sugar
    with a few other things thrown in. mothers milk only provides
    limited protection for the first six months, it’s not a panacea.
    did you look up what i suggested about breast milk and chemical
    pollutants? read that first. it will change our mind.
    Dennis

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  40. Dave Smith Says:

    Er - There’s always "the woman behind the man" - no wonder he was SO
    wise:-)))

  41. Dave Smith Says:

    liz nelson wrote:
    > How come there are no male hareems for queens ?

    Women have broader minds:-))

  42. Dave Smith Says:

    There are a scary number of fly by night alternative therapists with
    broken broomsticks. We really need an acceptable standard to be met by
    each profession before they are allowed to call themselves a
    professional. In mine for example (homeopathy) anyone can claim to be a
    homeopath, even if they never took a course in their life. Or you can
    have 4 weekends of "seminars" or you can have a year of "course work" or
    you can have a real 4 year degree and then some. How is the consumer to
    know who is who if there is no set standard?

    > I didn’t know homeopathy could do that! cool.

    I still have to find what it can not do:-))

    Ah. An EXCELLENT sign that it is the right remedy. I look for this in my
    animal clients with the first dose.

    VEry relevant.

    > We have a bartering arrangement - I think that says a lot about her
    > that she is willing to give help because I need it, and not just for money.

    Most good homeopaths are that way. I have never turned down a case just
    because owner was broke - and I would not be here if it was not for the
    generosity of my own homeopath.

    > Cortisol is stress hormone, right?

    YEs. Some people also call it the death hormone. It kills cells
    indiscriminately when it is in high levels - brain, muscle, eyes,
    stomach lining, joints, whatever. When we die, cortisol kills all the
    cells - hence "death hormone".

    Yes I am. It is no picnic to live with and I was told I’d not make it
    past 2001. But my watch date says otherwise and my homeopath is the
    reason. Plus a scary number of supplements to overcome a lot of the
    cortisol damage. My entire life is planned around reducing cortisol
    damage, reversing cortisol damage, recovering from cortisol damage,
    avoiding cortisol damage or destroying cortisol or reducing natural
    cortisol production from adrenals or reducing the tumour production via
    homeopathy. For example the diabetes I have is a side effect as a result
    of attack on the pancreas and my immune system is blocked so I am at
    high risk for serious infections which I usually have in winter.
    The list of consequential issues is pretty endless and I get crashed
    weeks/months as I call them, alternating with decent ones - the roller
    coaster life you know:-)
    But over the years I keep adding more strategies to fight back. My
    ARNP is fantastic as she hears my research, and then hunts down someone
    to advise. For example she found me a good physiotherapist to teach me
    tricks to overcome the joint damage issues. I need special exercises for
    the joints to recover the damage, and the more effectively I can
    exercise, the easier it is to get back functions I lose in a random
    cortisol attack. So these joint exercises are now built into my normal
    day, and I seldom have non-functional limbs any more.
    The brain damage is the trickiest. One has to re-learn whatever
    was erased quite soon, or it will be gone. Some days I wake up and some
    very obvious things have just been erased, like my SS number or a
    password that I use often or my best friend’s name an I have to
    reconstruct them.

    At least I no longer wake up in a freak not knowing who I am or where I
    am or what day it is etc. But I do have a clock right where I see it on
    waking to help me get oriented (it states am or pm) as sleeping hour
    patterns are all over the place in this syndrome, and these days I can
    usually figure out the day of the week quite soon after waking. If not,
    and it is daytime, I call Anne, my best friend who will fill me in
    without considering me a nutcase. My watch has the day but my eyes are
    not good enough to see the tiny mark. I can also work it out from
    "yesterday’s emails" since today’s frustratingly have a time and no date.
    The hard part for me is explaining to any official type why I am not
    able to work full time in a normal job. After about 2 hrs of work I get
    names, words, etc incorrect unless I stop and rest a few hours. I can
    think of the right ones but the connections to speak/type them correctly
    go missing and if I force it, then the eyesight also goes on the fritz.
    However official types for disability financial help always give me
    these weird "psychological" tests that I pass with flying colours, then
    go home sick as a dog for a week, followed by pneumonia etc from the
    increased stress of the test. Such is life:-)

    > If i am home alone cooking i don’t care- things eventually get done - if
    > i don’t forget it is in the oven and it burns lol.

    A good reason I use a microwave. You set the time up front :-)
    I feel sorry for such people. They obviously have no concept….

    Me too. Oh man, the other day I was trying to put a new bike computer on
    my bicycle, a cordless one (my cats ate through the cord on the last
    one). It’s truly simple, snapped on with a few elastics and things, but
    I had to do it from written diagrams. It took 3 hours. My son would have
    taken 5 minutes. Then I took most of an entire day to change a front
    bicycle tyre - due to muscle weakness, a terrible struggle to get the
    thing off/on the rim even with tools. I get so little done in a day and
    others do not understand this. I must be wasting time doing nothing!

    > I am a very organized person, i
    > know exactly which pile something is in!

    Me too. No files; just a very good "Piling System".

    Oh mine is not:-( I prefer it organized but some days I just do not have
    what it takes and have to do essentials only. My email as here is
    relaxation time between physical or mental tasks - to unwind for the
    next one that requires concentration of either thought or muscle.

    I like it :-) But I don’t got it:-))

    > I tried using coloured sticky notes as one ADHD book suggested,

    Oh those did not work for me either. I tried several systems before I
    found what works for me.

    > but got
    > confused about the colours, and it was overwhelming to write them.

    I have a shorthand to keep items to one line in my notebook.
    My consulting work is by email (gives me time to plan and check it) so
    the first few letters of client email addy go on the line and my browser
    will do searches on "subject or sender contains…" I use that a lot.
    My browser also allows red-lighting emails that are urgent.

    I was doing that at one stage, have gotten better, but remember the
    frustration. My problems are in proportion to cortisol level. With
    normal being about 10, mine was 320 a couple years ago and is currently
    about 150. So improvement is slow but it is there. It’s also seasonal, I
    improve during summer, crash in winter, but each summer/winter is a bit
    better than the previous one.

    > Nice idea. I got one meal now! yay.

    :-)))
    Glad you found an idea that works.

    Oh that sucks. Go to FL????

    > I wonder if she could do the lab
    > tests i am looking for

    Yes, anything the doctor can order, the ARNP can order. Mine orders
    MRI’s, CT scans, lab work, you name it. Also gives me referrals as
    needed to specialists, physiotherapists etc.

    > Yes, i have followed, or tried to follow that diet. I am type 0 and a
    > real protein junkie.

    Me too but a nonsecretor. I find the diet has to be 100% to be optimal,
    and I am a cheese fanatic, so that’s hard. There’s no cheese in O ns.
    I get edema if I eat it, and lately I have cheese and edema :-))
    When the edema gets bad I do a week of being a goody two shoes, and the
    edema goes.

    > This dietician also planned my meal around my
    > blood. But as i realized yesterday, she had yoghurt on my diet,

    I thought that was a no-no for O’s. (Maybe only O ns?) I can’t do any
    dairy at all.

    >>>>My ARNP is the only one ….

    > Does this mean she is familiar with alternative approaches and how to
    > integrate them?

    No, she’d need training to be that way and she has none, but it means
    she is open to them. Not all ARNPs will be open to alternative
    approaches I suppose. My ARNP writes down what homeopathic remedy I am
    on in my chart and encourages me to contact my homeopath for more ideas
    when she has none etc. She has learned from me what homeopathy can do
    and as she says my improvements are against all medical predictions so
    she likes that I am improving in general instead of missing…
    She has helped by not giving up on me when all the specialists did. She
    will hunt out scientific articles to explain stuff or to fill me in on
    something that may help and mail them to me and so on.

    > With such non-ordinary concerns, how does she know of
    > the unuusal specialists? Does she do the research to find what is needed?

    Yes she hunts it down and she has connections at the university, and has
    no problem phoning other professionals and saying "I do not know what
    options there are, where do I find out" and so on. I do most of my own
    research now that I am well enough to do it but I often need tests or
    something to use what I find and she’ll help. One test I wanted was only
    available in CA somewhere so she arranged overnighting a sample and
    getting insurance approval first. She really does things with my
    interests in mind, no ego in the way as with most doctors.

    > Exactly. I used two types from Novolin, and reacted to both.

    YEah that’s the thing.
    I take a lot of Vit C, pantothenic acid and B6 daily which usually
    staves off allergic reactions -and then if I use only 2 units I am okay.
    I avoid the need for insulin and don’t use it much.

    Drug companies and ethics are never in the same place IMO.

    > I have been researcing my reactions and they are not normal allergies.

    Mine were not either but my allergies are minimal these days - no more
    asthma for example; and nausea from banana but not anaphylaxis any more.
    Alternative medicine fixed it.

    The point is that what kind of allergy is not important (nor even a
    diagnosis per se) as long as you match your symptoms for the right
    homeopathic remedy.

    > This info is really only a new subtheory in autism

    Sounds like your current homeopath is good.
    I also know a homeopath who specializes in autism range syndromes incase
    you ever need a reference.

    > The withdrawl is nasty and i have been shaking since yesterday noon, so
    > i took a Bach remedy last night. Guess what? the alcohol in it

    Oh but you are not supposed to use BAch remedies as they come (even
    though they also work that way). Make it aqueous in future:
    Put 3 drops of each remedy you want to use, into a 1/4 cup of water, and
    shake well. Dose from there. (I was a BAch practitioner even before I
    was a homeopath; mostly for animals, but the owners invariably wanted
    remedies too:-))

    started
    > the reaction all over again. lol I would bet the alcohol in
    > homeopathic remedies

    ALWAYS make homeopathic remedies aqueous. You can get every homeopathic
    remedy in any of the options, powder, grains, tablets, alcohol… so
    order a dry form. The tablet or alcohol etc is only a carrier - the real
    help is in the energy being carried not in the alcohol - alcohol is only
    a preservative in the case of Bach and homeopathy.

    > or exipients in supplements

    Those are another matter:-)

    Have fun finding better ways to help health along:-))

    Namaste,
    Irene

  43. Endy Smith Says:

    where does it say they were happy and satisfied?

    Er - There’s always "the woman behind the man" - no wonder he was SO
    wise:-)))

    Namaste,
    Irene

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  44. Dave Black Says:

    My perspective is that because nearly everyone has a suboptimal
    diet, rich in carbohydrates and low in vegetables and the
    PREbiotic inulin that a high-fiber would have provided, most
    people have a degree of bowel dysbiosis, some much more than
    others.

    Dysbiosis (dysbacteriosis) allows gut candida to fluorish
    right away, in a chronic condition, intestinal pemeability (leaky gut)
    will allow pathogens into the blood, candida included.

    And candida in a condition of dysbiosis causes a gluten reaction
    because it has the same glycoproteins.

    You can figure out for yourself if you are precluding a degree of
    dysbiosis by analysing whether you get the optimal 12 grams of

    inulin in your diet daily to prevent it. I’d bet you don’t. Even
    antibiotic-associated diarrhea, dysbiosis and bowel candida is
    stopped by increasing inulin intake and restoring bowel culture.

    There’s no advantage to tolerating gluten or eating a high-carb
    diet because we have not evolved to do that without experiencing many
    types of disease anyway.

  45. Dave Black Says:

    The anti-milk agenda statement from Dennis above in no way
    reflects the properties that whey has, and is only somewhat
    accurate for whole milk.

    Whey is about the most bioavailable and healthy food one can eat,
    even as an elder. his is supported by copious medical research.

    Using cold-processed whey is actually a hedge against most of the
    complications of diabetes and aging.

  46. Dave Black Says:

    While I agree that it’s been established that some contaminants
    that are carried by fats tend to also be carried by the fats in
    milk, an important point to remember also is that this occurs
    when the body’s ability to render them harmless or eject them has
    been compromized.

    That makes the question of whether the mother mammal has
    experienced biological degradation to allow this to occur, a very
    important one. In most people and most cows we would find this to
    be the case; the recent research that reveals a reduction in
    magnesium content in animal flesh and in dairy since the 1940’s
    would indicate the mothers, thus the babies, aren’t getting their
    magnesium quota. Of course this is just one reason we’re seeing
    more disease and less toxin clearance; it requires an alkaline
    balanced body.

    Not taking such things into account is what makes the NotMilk
    agenda, an agenda rather than good science.

  47. Endy Smith Says:

    i think if solomon had all those wives and concubines he
    would have died of dehydration, half a teaspoonful at a time.
    Dennis

    Jewish marriage historically is about satisfying the woman, or else she
    is obligated to divorce him. And that means respect, kindness, care,
    attention and all that stuff too. Even from a king. Ok, a king who
    killed to get where he was……. :(
    The Wrong Hands wrote:

    >where does it say they were happy and satisfied?
    >

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  48. Endy Smith Says:

    While I agree that it’s been established that some contaminants
    that are carried by fats tend to also be carried by the fats in
    milk, an important point to remember also is that this occurs
    when the body’s ability to render them harmless or eject them has
    been compromized.

    That makes the question of whether the mother mammal has
    experienced biological degradation to allow this to occur, a very
    important one. In most people and most cows we would find this to
    be the case; the recent research that reveals a reduction in
    magnesium content in animal flesh and in dairy since the 1940’s
    would indicate the mothers, thus the babies, aren’t getting their
    magnesium quota. Of course this is just one reason we’re seeing
    more disease and less toxin clearance; it requires an alkaline
    balanced body.

    Not taking such things into account is what makes the NotMilk
    agenda, an agenda rather than good science.

    Duncan Crow

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  49. Endy Smith Says:

    your’e right. you’ve convinced me.
    i’m gonna run right out and buy some spoiled milk curds.
    i can’t wait to taste all those yummy hormones, and steroids.
    and in addition, the pus, the faeces, the blood, and the bacteria,
    add extra protein. industrial contaminants are just free flavourings.
    not even on a triple dirty dog dare.
    D

    The anti-milk agenda statement from Dennis above in no way
    reflects the properties that whey has, and is only somewhat
    accurate for whole milk.

    Whey is about the most bioavailable and healthy food one can eat,
    even as an elder. his is supported by copious medical research.


    Using cold-processed whey is actually a hedge against most of the
    complications of diabetes and aging.

    Duncan

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  50. John Smith Says:

    I’m new to this forum and I don’t know if this thread is dead but I
    have experienced numbers rising after a few (4-8)hrs. within the last
    couple of days I had the chance ask a registered nurse about it and
    she told me that after a period of the body senses the need for food
    or fuel-which ever your comfortable with and the liver which stores
    suger releases into the system accounting for the rise in numbers.
    what I question is if that is so then what happens when you eat while
    that is going on? will the numbers be extra high ? If so there goes
    any type of controll!

  51. Endy Smith Says:

    every man is familiar with the dreaded SBU.
    this horrid condition is more likely to cause frustration
    than build toward enlightenment.
    Dennis

    Talk about synchronicity! I am reading a book called "Sacred Sexuality"
    that compares sexuality and trantra across religions. In the Chinese
    system, a Taoist merges the male and female aspects together using sex
    as part of this practice. The author Georg Feuerstein says -
    "The Chinese Yellow Emperor had 1200 women in his harem and would have
    died prematurely had he not known the secret of seminal control.
    However, since he was a master of making love to his women without
    forfeiting his precious life-sustaining liquid, he succeeded in
    perfecting his body to a degree at which he rose bodily into the
    heavenly domain."

    There are many stories of tantra where it is about the spiritual
    experience and unity, and not about orgasm and release - that seems
    sorta an afterthought in that state of consciousness.

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  52. Dave Smith Says:

    The smart move is to eat every 3 hours (especially protein) t0o prevent
    this sugar rise from happening.

    Namaste,
    Irene

  53. Dave Smith Says:

    I didn’t have that:-)) I only had healthy milk, hence only have VERY
    healthy kids.

    If you eat a diet high in nutrient value and antioxidants, then what
    little pollutants get in there are long gone before they hit the milk ;-) Read Duncan’s post - it has more….

    Namaste,
    Irene

  54. Endy Smith Says:

    you had healthy kids in spite of what you pumped into them.
    breast tissue doesn’t magically vanish toxix chemicals.
    that’s cool. i knew you wouldn’t read what i suggested anyway.
    how does it go?
    denial,
    anger,
    bargining,
    acceptance,
    resignation.
    if ever anyone was in Deep Denial it’s…
    you know what?
    forget it.
    this is amurika, and you have the right
    to poison your kids with any disgusting fluid your body
    churns out above the waist.

    but if you tried to feed it to your kids out of a carton,
    and got ratted on, you’d be arrested, prosecuted and jailed.
    D

    I didn’t have that:-)) I only had healthy milk, hence only have VERY
    healthy kids.

    If you eat a diet high in nutrient value and antioxidants, then what
    little pollutants get in there are long gone before they hit the milk ;-) Read Duncan’s post - it has more….

    Namaste,
    Irene

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    P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
    www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
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  55. Dave Smith Says:

    The Wrong Hands wrote:
    > you had healthy kids in spite of what you pumped into them.
    > breast tissue doesn’t magically vanish toxix chemicals.

    No, not magically, it uses antioxidants in the diet:-))

    Namaste,
    Irene

  56. Dave Black Says:

    > The Wrong Hands wrote:
    > i’m gonna run right out and buy some spoiled milk curds.

    Don’t do that, O wayward one;

    Spoiled milk curds — cotage cheese — are a-casein from cows
    milk, not the b-casein found in human milk. Cow casein is
    incompaible with human digestion.

    Whey I recommended is different; most of its components are

  57. John Smith Says:

    D,
    I still think that breast milk has to be the best of
    whats available,(it has served perfectly well for
    eaons and even when the earth was perfect, any mother
    could consume something that might not agree with the
    infant) . The only other milk you might replace it
    with is goat milk, perhaps? I mean, you can’t
    guarantee what the goats are consuming either. At
    this point of time maybe everything is contaminated .
    I think you are singling out human mamary glands as
    particularly treacherous , for some reason . L

  58. John Smith Says:

    Thanks for your additions and elaborations , this is
    interesting Liz

  59. John Smith Says:

    I agree about the food and the emotional aspects being
    intertwined , but I think In the old days (maybe
    before farming ) when we comforted ourselves , the
    food we had to choose from probably helped us rahther
    than damaged us further . The bad , nutritionless,
    high sugar foods made things worse . I’m sure if
    parents were not compromised themselves with bad food
    , they would see what was going on. As it is from
    generation to generation we are growing not only more
    sick but with that sickness ,corespondingly more
    unaware of the dynamics which are causeing so much
    illness and dysfunction . If our bodies aren’t working
    , then neither will our brains , DUH!
    Nowadays I say to myself when I encounter depressed
    ,hyper, angry , dopey, agressive or cranky

    individuals , (whether it’s my kids or a mob at a
    stadium for e.g.),I think first that their chemistry
    is unbalanced and then I think about their diets .
    This is kind of the same approach as eastern medicine
    for the last few thousand years.
    When are people going to wake up to the fact that
    it’s the food(and drink) that we consume both
    physically and mentally that controls both our life
    and our very perception of life?
    Liz

  60. Endy Smith Says:

    i have a certification saying i’m an ordained minister
    with a Doctor of Divinity degree. and it’s true.
    i can baptise, marry and bury someone and it’s as
    legal as salt. it cost $10.

    Dennis

    This guy I saw I knew from classes we took together, and he was doing
    his internship to complete his 4 year diploma at the naturopathic
    college - and was even supervised by several naturopaths, so every
    decision was a group one. In other words, even with all that training,
    none of them had any clue about me.

    >>>>It’s also seasonal, I improve during summer, crash in winter, but each
    summer/winter is a bit better than the previous one.

    >>

    Is it the light, the temp, lifestyle..of the seasons that affects it? I
    was once told that a low thyroid adds to difficulty in winter.

    I don’t know about the secretor thing yet - i’ll get around to reading
    the book eventually. As long as you know the consequences and are
    willing to risk them, then it really is your choice.

    Hey, that wasn’t the homeopath, that is years of researching my own
    symptoms. :) thanks for the reference. I may need it one day.

    good luck with your own health! to immortality!
    rachel

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  61. Endy Smith Says:

    to tell you the truth, i only use it when i’m discussing religion with
    someone who aggrevates me, and i want a ‘closing’ to shut them up.
    i could actually start a church if i chose, and it would be a genuine
    501c3 tax exempt organization. the only thing stopping me is i
    don’t have enough larceny in me to milk the " Speak For God" racket.
    my daughter is a minister, too, and has actually married people.
    hit the web at Universal Life Church, Inc.
    you can be ordained online for free.
    my doctorate cost $10, and for $100 you can get a PhD.
    ever considered becoming a one woman 501c3? in delaware,
    you can incorporate really really really cheaply. the corporation needs
    no start-up capital, and one person can be the pres. the vice pres. and
    treasurer all at once. if you choose not to pay the $50 fee, your name will
    not be on the public records of the corporation. they don’t especially like it,
    but delaware is

    nothing if not corporation friendly. from there, you can get federal
    recognition
    and get donations from any state your corp is registered with. it’s cheap.
    the whole wad costs only about $500. you even get to embelish the corps rules
    and by-laws as you go along. i honestly don’t understand why the state of
    delaware isn’t in prison for this kind of chicanery, but as long as it flys
    i’m for it.
    i can recommend a book if you’d like…
    regards,
    Dr. Dennis James Garrett, D.D.

    Hey, how do I go about getting one of those? It might come in handy next
    time i go talking ‘heresy’ and am asked what my qualifications are? lol

    rachel

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  62. Endy Smith Says:

    hi rachel,
    it isn’t just for religious purposes.
    you can be a library, a charity, a sorority, a research lab,
    a yacht club, or, you can develop non-specific corporatitis.
    the legal phrase is >"any purpose for which a non-profit
    corporation may be formed". pretty cool huh? delaware is REALLY corporation
    friendly.
    which just begs the question of which corporation is you?
    and what it does?
    Dr. Dennis J. Garrett, D.D., P.i.H.a.D.
    (Pilin’ it Higher and Deeper) ;-D

    I am not exactly corporation friendly, if ya know what i mean.
    Technically, my ‘legal’ name already is a corporation, so why
    incorporate again? lol If I had the courage, I would do my personal

    income taxes this year under my ‘corporate’ legal name - and all my
    living expenses as deductible corporate expenses. I never thought of
    changing myself to a tax free ‘religious’ organization - now that’s a
    very interesting idea! lol

    rachel

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  63. Dave Smith Says:

    rachel mason wrote:
    >>>>[Irene]Ah. An EXCELLENT sign that it is the right remedy. I look for this in
    my
    >>>animal clients with the first dose.

    > How do you tell with animals when they feel better and it is the right
    > remedy?

    Depends how sick they are and in what way. I have the client watch them
    the first half hour or so after the first remedy dose (which I often
    make a larger dose for this purpose), and just report what they do.
    For example a sick cat with no appetite may walk over to the food
    bowl or water bowl and check it out even if they do not actually eat. A
    less sick one will eat. A cat too ill to move around will lift its head
    and take in the surroundings - or will yawn and relax into a more

    comfortable and less tense position. A dog who has given up being a
    watchgdog through feeling too sick, may go to the window and check out
    what’s out there.
    So something will indicate an emotional or general stimulus has been
    perceived by the system.

    It’s a much more severe form of it.
    You are unlikely to forget your SS number probably - whereas mine can be
    totally erased or partly erased, and I have to look it up and re-learn
    it. I’ll forget my best friend’s name or my son’s name and say "hello
    ……" (and the name will be gone) I’ll have to look it up.

    Very Frustrating - it’s a time waste as I keep having to re-do or
    re-learn instead of getting on with stuff. thankfully my close friends
    understand that not knowing their name is not personal!!! My clients do
    not have to see that - I do everything by email specifically to give me
    time to get it right.

    Web Tables are not so easy - good for you:-))

    This is why I know how to cook microwave meals in under 5 minutes:-))
    If it takes longer than 5, it’s not for me. Most things are 3 minutes (a
    TV commercial worth).

    The disease is catabolic - breaks down the body - and so it is VERY hard
    to maintain body temperature. I am just too cold to function in winter
    and can’t earn enough to run up a decent heating bill. So the compromise
    is a thermostat at 55 for one room where I stick my bed, TV, desk,
    bookcase etc etc next to the kitchen area, - and with my situation it
    feels like icicles for bones and I am ill all winter. I go out when I
    can to warm places but need to work to earn at home. I use an electric
    under blanket which helps, and slippers that have beanbag heat you add
    in the microwave - and my son got me a down jacket and insulated ski
    pants this year to live in, and they all help but not enough to let me
    feel warm. I should be in Florida but can’t afford the move:-)

    > I
    > was once told that a low thyroid adds to difficulty in winter.

    Yes, and mine is messed up by cortisol.
    It makes all the T4 turn to reverseT3 (rT3, not active or useful T3) and
    it makes the "T3 uptake" very high so that there is no active T3 available.

    It’s taken time to develop the mutual respect and trust - several years
    - but now that it is there it is really a boon to me.

    > 2 units is nothing! and that amount actually works for you? Must be
    > that low carb diet, and the rest of your body is working well.

    YEs I stay very low carb and also exercise after eating any carbs, even
    if it is just alternate leg lifts in my TV chair:-) The less insulin I
    can get by with the better. It’s different when I have an infection -
    then the sugar sky-rockets and I need to use a lot more insulin.

    > Hey, that wasn’t the homeopath, that is years of researching my own
    > symptoms. :)
    Oh good for you!!!!
    I know what that takes having had to research my oddball case too.

    > thanks for the reference. I may need it one day.

    Just yell :-))

    > good luck with your own health! to immortality!

    Hear hear!!!
    Those of us who work at it are on track to get there right :-))

    Namaste,
    Irene

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