Comments on: Re: FW: FW: a reason diabetes is an inflammatory disorder http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2006/05/17/re-fw-fw-a-reason-diabetes-is-an-inflammatory-disorder/ Some tips for diabetic, recipes and products. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:30:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2006/05/17/re-fw-fw-a-reason-diabetes-is-an-inflammatory-disorder/#comment-11395 Dave Black Sat, 20 May 2006 04:21:24 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2006/05/17/re-fw-fw-a-reason-diabetes-is-an-inflammatory-disorder/#comment-11395 You don't have to insult anyon to make a point. The link to go to for information on Dr. Chilton is Inflammationnation.com. I think it will answer a lot of your questions. What the book does is provide the "only clinically proven diets" according to the researcher, and it proposes a new food pyramid that takes inflammation into account, which the current one does not. Also, it provides a patented inflammation index for about 250 foods so people can just total up and see where they're at. Not bad for $11. It's a great ivstment and I'd really like to avoid discussing the merits of a book with someone who won't buy a copy. You don’t have to insult anyon to make a point. The link to go to for
information on Dr. Chilton is Inflammationnation.com. I think it will
answer a lot of your questions.

What the book does is provide the "only clinically proven diets"
according to the researcher, and it proposes a new food pyramid that
takes inflammation into account, which the current one does not. Also,
it provides a patented inflammation index for about 250 foods so
people can just total up and see where they’re at.

Not bad for $11. It’s a great ivstment and I’d really like to avoid
discussing the merits of a book with someone who won’t buy a copy.

]]> By: Dave Smith http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2006/05/17/re-fw-fw-a-reason-diabetes-is-an-inflammatory-disorder/#comment-11393 Dave Smith Thu, 18 May 2006 20:12:37 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2006/05/17/re-fw-fw-a-reason-diabetes-is-an-inflammatory-disorder/#comment-11393 Who is "they"? So far I have not seen holes in other researchers' work that *I* have used. I'm not into this scientist bashing without names, it needs to be specific. Nor do I believe for one minute that Chilton had any kind of monopoly on science, even if he CLAIMS he does :-)) The NAtional Library is full of good research by others:-)) I've seen nothing I did not learn elsewhere years ago. What does Chilton have that is new? And who is he to say his is the only "properly done" research. These are wild claims Duncan - they have no place here. If you want to state that Chilton discovered something specific please do, but to state he is blanket the best and only, is sure to turn people off not on!!! > No, but Chilton produces diet plans that balance the fatty acids in all that <!--more--> > you eat. He can't. Everyone needs different amounts of each fatty acid according to where their metabolism needs help. So if he thinks one diet suits all, he is WAY off target. Excuse me, it was not done by guesswork!!! From 1976 the detailed calculation research on eicosanoids of omega-3's was done!!! > Before he did this series of studies, Chilton was internationally reknowned > as a researcher Which planet? Certainly not in the National Library of Medicine where he is not once the main contributor to an article, and is a sub-contributor only 5 times total, none of the articles on eicosanoid balance either :-)) So there's no evidence of National much less international "renown". What assumption? > particularly with regard to age and weight and essential > fatty acid balance, is specifically exposed by Dr. Chilton. I did not say weight - I said weight relative to ideal - and there is copious good research on how important fatty acids are in an obese metabolism, a diabetic one, etc - Maybe Dr C needs to read them. I think you need to back your flowery claims with data and evidence Duncan:-)) If Chilton has anything good - and I hope he does - you are sure not presenting it. You want all to "believe because he is world-famous". Whether he is or not, and apparently he is not, that is still not a reason to believe anything. There need to be scientific reasons (and I am not seeing any) rather than "believe it because I say so" reasons. NAmaste, Who is "they"?
So far I have not seen holes in other researchers’ work that *I* have used.
I’m not into this scientist bashing without names, it needs to be specific.
Nor do I believe for one minute that Chilton had any kind of monopoly on
science, even if he CLAIMS he does :-))
The NAtional Library is full of good research by others:-))

I’ve seen nothing I did not learn elsewhere years ago. What does Chilton
have that is new? And who is he to say his is the only "properly done"
research.
These are wild claims Duncan - they have no place here. If you want to
state that Chilton discovered something specific please do, but to state
he is blanket the best and only, is sure to turn people off not on!!!

> No, but Chilton produces diet plans that balance the fatty acids in all that

> you eat.

He can’t.
Everyone needs different amounts of each fatty acid according to where
their metabolism needs help. So if he thinks one diet suits all, he is
WAY off target.

Excuse me, it was not done by guesswork!!!
From 1976 the detailed calculation research on eicosanoids of omega-3’s
was done!!!

> Before he did this series of studies, Chilton was internationally reknowned
> as a researcher

Which planet?
Certainly not in the National Library of Medicine where he is not once
the main contributor to an article, and is a sub-contributor only 5
times total, none of the articles on eicosanoid balance either :-))
So there’s no evidence of National much less international "renown".

What assumption?

> particularly with regard to age and weight and essential
> fatty acid balance, is specifically exposed by Dr. Chilton.

I did not say weight - I said weight relative to ideal - and there is
copious good research on how important fatty acids are in an obese
metabolism, a diabetic one, etc - Maybe Dr C needs to read them.

I think you need to back your flowery claims with data and evidence
Duncan:-))
If Chilton has anything good - and I hope he does - you are sure not
presenting it. You want all to "believe because he is world-famous".
Whether he is or not, and apparently he is not, that is still not a
reason to believe anything. There need to be scientific reasons (and I
am not seeing any) rather than "believe it because I say so" reasons.

NAmaste,

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