Ok, I’m confused
I havn been on insulin for a couple of months. This morning I woke up
with my normal, but not understood, BS numbers at 180. I took my
normal 60 units of R and forgot to eat. Two hours later my numbers at
230. Is the insulin building up my BS. Or does it only work to
counteract what I eat after the injection.
Regards
Richard
November 27th, 2005 at 4:52 pm
Richard,
Not enough data…cannot compute….type of insulin you are using…more diet
info…alcohol onboard….
suggest you look into pump therapy….much more effective way to deliver
insulin…..
I havn been on insulin for a couple of months. This morning I woke up
with my normal, but not understood, BS numbers at 180. I took my
normal 60 units of R and forgot to eat. Two hours later my numbers at
230. Is the insulin building up my BS. Or does it only work to
counteract what I eat after the injection.
Regards
Richard
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November 28th, 2005 at 7:06 am
I may be wrong, and if I am, I’m sure someone will correct me. First of all,
I don’t know what "R" stands for.
But if that is a fast acting insulin and you took it first thing when you got
up in the morning, and forgot to eat completely, I’ve had that happen to me.
I was told it has to do with a liver dump of insulin called dawn phenomenom.
Happens only when I don’t eat anything. Drinking doesn’t count. In fact, my
bs will stay high for hours and hours if I don’t eat. Have to eat a little
something to start things working, if only a couple of crackers and a slice of
cheese. To my knowledge, insulin that you shoot does not build up in your
blood and cause higher bs.
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November 28th, 2005 at 3:49 pm
"R" stands for Regular, it is not a fast-acting insulin like Humalog, or Novolog
(commonly used with pump therapy). It is however a sharp "peaking" insulin,
unlike the long acting Lente insulins…The dawn effect sounds like your
nemesis…It is easy to handle with pump therapy, you just program in an
increased rate 2 or so hours before rising….
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November 29th, 2005 at 5:26 am
Hello Scott,
<<suggest you look into pump therapy….much more effective way to deliver
insulin…..
Prove it >: > !!!
Its no more effective than injections and has far less side effects… IMHE…
BUt we agree on one thing somethings wrong with the data presented… 60 does
not compute.
Jeff
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November 29th, 2005 at 1:15 pm
But I meant that I don’t need increased insulin for the dawn effect. Since
I’m aware this happens to me, I found out that as long as I eat a little
something early, mostly protein, right when I get up, the rise won’t occur; only
happens if I go without eating. So I was wondering if that would solve the
increase for you as well.
I don’t use a pump… I’m Type 2 and I try to shoot the very least amount of
insulin I can get by with, and it changes on a daily basis; some days if I’m
very good about what I eat and get my exercise in for the day, I don’t need any
at all, and that’s what I’m aiming for, getting to the point of control where
I don’t need any.
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November 30th, 2005 at 12:18 am
The dawn effect is more pronounced phenomenon in Type 1’s (and we are for sure a
real minority here), but as you mentioned earlier, it is a result of a liver
dump of glucose in the hours before waking….This is one reason why there is a
problem with overindulging in alcohol…If you go to bed with a high alcohol,
your liver is spending all its time trying to detoxify…and the glucose dump
does not happen and you can have hypoglycemia…
But I meant that I don’t need increased insulin for the dawn effect. Since
I’m aware this happens to me, I found out that as long as I eat a little
something early, mostly protein, right when I get up, the rise won’t occur;
only
happens if I go without eating. So I was wondering if that would solve the
increase for you as well.
I don’t use a pump… I’m Type 2 and I try to shoot the very least amount of
insulin I can get by with, and it changes on a daily basis; some days if I’m
very good about what I eat and get my exercise in for the day, I don’t need
any
at all, and that’s what I’m aiming for, getting to the point of control where
I don’t need any.
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