Comments on: Duncan, about immunocal

By: Dave Black

Dave Black — Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:23:46 +0000

Pam,

Not all whey is a byproduct - it’s becoming a main product as the
factories are upgraded and new processes are installed.

The designer wheys we are talking about in this context are
extracted BEFORE the casein goes to the cheese factory to make
cheese. It is cold-processed, or in some low-end products, what’s
left of the valuable undamaged fractions are extracted. Heating and
excessive mechanical work on it destroys the valuable glutathione
precursors.

The body builder wheys on the other hand are great protein sources
but you’re right, most of them are cooked and thereby made useless
for glutathione production. I don’t recommend any of those

products.

The words on the label to look for are such like undenatured,
peptides intact, cold-processed, or they’re not what you’re looking
for.

By: Dave Black

Dave Black — Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:36:29 +0000

Hi Pam,

Thanks for the post. I also do not drink pasteurized milk. I do buy cheese that
is not pasteurized from a whole foods store. Are you sure that this product is
pasteurized? I was going to order, but I will spend more for a product that
still has all of the enzymes.

Thanks,

Kat

By: John Smith

John Smith — Sun, 27 Mar 2005 00:21:15 +0000

Well, I looked into it and Dynawhey is made from whey which is a
byproduct of cheesemaking. Since most cheese is pasteurized and
indeed, most milk is pasteurized then this product is not for me. I
really believe that pasteurized milk products are a bad thing for the
body.
The immunocal is expensive but they have total control of the product
and the milk is never pasteurized. It is also taken from cows who
have not been fed any hormones or antibiotics. I guess you get what
you pay for. The raw milk I buy to make kefir costs 4 times as much
as regular milk but it is getting me healthy, not making me sicker.
I am not taking this for diabetes anyway. I am taking it for mercury
detox so it is vital for me to have a very pure product.
Thanks,
Pam

By: Dave Black

Dave Black — Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:13:34 +0000

Hi Pam;

I’f you’re Canadian, try Wal-Mart or Superstore. Otherwise you’d
have to buy it from a Canadian or find an alternative.

The description for Dyna Whey is at www.fortius.ca and note they
have a product they send to the USA but it has added sugar.

Duncan

By: Dave Black

Dave Black — Fri, 25 Mar 2005 06:13:15 +0000

By reading the messages of this group you agree to hold yourself FULLY
responsible FOR yourself.
Have a nice day !

By: John Smith

John Smith — Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:43:49 +0000

So what is the substitute? Can I get it locally or do I have to order
it from you? I’ll try the Immunocal since it just arrived but, for
next time.
Thanks a lot,
Pam

By: Dave Black

Dave Black — Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:15:53 +0000

I don’t sell Immunocal as you know Pam, but I do know that it takes
500 gallons of milk to make one 10-gram pouch of Immunocal. You
couldn’t drink that much milk or whey, so the short answer is NO.

And most people need 20 or 30 grams of Immunocal a day at a cost of
just under $200 USD monthly.

The prohibitive cost is why I found a reasonable diabetic-safe
substitute that costs less than 1/4 as much but produces
glutathione plus provides a good source of bioavailable protein. I
recommend 40 to 60 grams daily of the substitute.

Duncan Crow