Re: Digest Number 894

Great news, Pam.
Has anyone had success w/long term diabetes????
I was dx’d 13 years ago. On glucophage, diabeta, advantia, as well as drugs for
high blood pressure and heart (conjestive heart failure).
I’m lowering my carbs, as, even w/all those meds, my sugars were running in the
300’s. Now, w/lower carbs, I get lower numbers
I’m obese and 51 yrs old.
So, is there any knowledge of how what Pam is having success with, would work on
long term diabetes? Or can the pancreas be too far gone?

9 Responses to “Re: Digest Number 894”

  1. Dave Black Says:

    I and four other diabetics have indulged ourselves in
    a research project of our own…..

    We were our own guinea pigs and amazing results….

    If you eat high carb diet, ie grains, rice corn etc..
    and then tried to lower our BSL , all five os us found
    that it takes on average twice as long to lower the
    BSL vs when we dont eat any carbs….

    I have a no carb diet , that is, no grains of any
    sort, no rice no corn and nothing from the spud
    family…..If I get a spike in the BSL (from fruit or
    something else) usually within 24 hours my sugar gets
    into a normal range,,,,However if I eat grains etc it

    could take me as much as four days to get it into a
    livable range, the other four guys experienced the
    same type of results….

    three of us use natural means to lower our BSL while
    the other two use their meds, both the meds and
    natural means experience the same time periods for
    lowering the BSL

    I Hope our attempt at research will spark some ideas
    into some of you…

  2. Dave Black Says:

    Conjestive heart failure, particularly left ventricle output is improved
    ith HGH. Also, obesity is reduced. Blood pressure also responds to HGH
    increase normally done without HGH shots, but with amino acids. The
    science of that is on a friend’s web site. The anti-aging specialists
    maintain that some of the islet cells can be regrown in the presence of
    elevated HGH.

    Blood pressure and circulation responds well to NitrO FX, a concentrated
    Noni extract that works on the same principle as Viagra, a nitric oxide
    increaser. The science of that is on my web site. Of interest is that it
    may also increase blood flow to occluded arteries in the legs, heart
    etc…

    Blood sugar, insulin and VLDL cholesterol respond to reduced sugar and
    starch, and increased inulin, the most common natural carb after starch.

    The science of that is also on my web site.

    Contact me or check my profile for the link and further information. It’s
    heavy reading but the science is all there.

    Duncan Crow

  3. John Smith Says:

    2 Naturpath drs I know say hgh is only good if you take the expensive shots,
    nothing by mouth works ?
    Geo

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  4. Dave Black Says:

    Probably the greatest natural remedy for circulation,
    especially for legs and eyes is the herb "BUTCHER’S
    BROOM" it is far greater item than noni….If you have
    problems in this area May i suggest you research this
    Herb….

    regards
    Michael

  5. Dave Black Says:

    Noni extract is a hands-down favorite for the breadth of support it gives
    the body; the researchers who discovered that nitric oxide was used in
    hundreds of essential ractions in the body won a Nobel Prize for their
    work in 1998.

    This would be a favoured herb for heart and kidney problems, lung
    restrictions, and blood pressure for example, and for general health
    improvement.

    On the other hand butcher’s broom (root) extract does work to improve
    circulation especially in the lower limbs. Paradoxically though, in a
    quote from Altern Med Rev. 2001 Dec;6(6):608-12. "Animal and in vitro
    studies show butcher’s broom to have a vasoconstrictive effect. The
    mechanism of this effect remains somewhat unclear."


    I’ll keep it in mind for people who have varicose veins.

  6. Dave Black Says:

    I’ll stick with my first hand knowledge, you can have
    the noni i’ll take the butcher’s broom and so will
    approximately 20 other diabetics who have used both
    (all where type II) and all showed improviement
    within a week of it’s use, about half of us showed an
    improvement in our BSL as for the juice all of us
    experienced significant spikes in our BSL, thus the
    juice is not for diabetics…

    Cheers
    Michael

    PS…as for Alt Med web site, they are good, but at
    times they put blinkers on and cant see anything else
    other than what they forcus on…

  7. John Smith Says:

    mike,
    How many mgs. do you take of the butchers broom or what strength?I take
    vit e 4oo mgs daily & also a baby aspirin.

    GOD BLESS OUR SOLDIERS & GOD BLESS YOU
    PRAY FOR WORLD PEACE…..Debra

  8. Dave Black Says:

    Hi Debra,

    FIRST I MUST CORRECT YOU, MY NAME IS MICHAEL, OR
    MIKEY( BORN AND RAISED IN nEW yORK cITY AND THAT WAS
    MY NICKNAME) OR mICK (WHICH IS THE NICKNAME HERE IN
    aUSTRALIA FOR mICHAEL) ANY OF THOSE THREE WOULD BE
    FINE..THANKS…

    I take 2 capsules in morning and 2 in the evening, for
    a total of 1600 mg per day, 400 mg in each capsule of
    Ruscus aculaetus 9BUTCHER’S BROOM) Root Powder….I
    use the prodcut by Naturesw Sunshine (I HAVE NO
    FINANCIAL INTEREST) which is manufacturers in U.S.
    and to sell here in Australia it has to pass customs
    tests (which are the toughest in the world) and also

    what is good about this product it is presertative
    free…

    cHEERS,
    mICHAEL

  9. Dave Black Says:

    Hi Jewell;

    Without making a medical claim such as "cures this ailment" for a
    herbal extract, which of course one can not do, if you saw some of
    the research on Noni you’d have the answer. What can be said is that
    according to the available research, Noni substantially increases
    nitric oxide. This is what I told you. The references also indicate
    the breadth of traditional remedies that use Noni.

    One can also say that many ailments are linked to reduced production
    or depletion of nitric oxide. When you look up the research for
    nitric oxide you can find all the specific medical references with
    regard to what it does.

    And one can also say that Viagra, an FDA approved drug, works by

    preventing an enzyme from breaking down nitric oxide. And two new
    drugs that work by the same principle are going to give Viagra a run
    probably in the next short while.

    So in this case it’s not a far cry at all, it’s simply a matter of
    connecting the dots. In this case there are only two dots, those
    being rising nitric oxide, and what a rise in nitric oxide has been
    proven to do. And this is all part of the research.

    Don’t forget, most drugs are attempts at copying or refining
    naturally-occurring molecules.

    Duncan Crow

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