Archive for December, 2004

Re: : Debra- metformin Must Read…..

Thursday, December 30th, 2004

Hi all,
My Dr. told me metformin would help keep me from gaining weight. He was
right because In three years my weight has remained the same.although I do wish
to lose some weight myself.The metformin is not a diet pill. someone told me
the vitimin chromium would help bs go down & my Dr. told me It would help
curve the appetite.
Listen to this .I am taking 2000 mil. Of glucophage daily…. Well, the
Dr. decided to put me on Avandia 8 mg & I also take 2, 5 mg. of glucotrol
daily.(Once morn ,Once eve) My Dr.s nurse gave me samples to try Of avandamet
500
mg. & told me take one a day..I said to his nurse he said he was putting me
on avandia. she said this is the same . I said ok & figured she knew.Being
kind, she had given me three months of the samples because my husband had
recently
been diagnosed with cancer.I thanked her & left the office . after taking the
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Conflict or self-empowerment?

Thursday, December 30th, 2004

Mary,
I do think conflict is inevitable, as I said, when you have a fear
factor like life/death going. I can only say that we *all* have the
freedom to read or *not* read what we choose. If you find that certain
people consistantly ’snip’ and I certainly have seen a long term pattern
of at least one person who snips anytime someone doesn’t agree with
their opinion, feel free to just delete those people’s emails unread. Of
course if the whole process of someone standing up for what they believe
against another person who would try to manipulate and control us all
with their ‘one and only correct truth’ is too difficult for you to deal
with, then you always do have the option of leaving the list, as much as
I would hate to see that happen. I for one, however, choose to stay and
continue to advocate what is working for me, regardless of how some
others choose to reacte. I also do want to stay open to any other
possiblity that others can tell me is working to *CURE* their diabetes.
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Re: Digest Number 850

Wednesday, December 29th, 2004

> NO. Just for those who want to control their diabetes by diet and
> exercise, without meds, and stay below 6., a reading of 108, in the morning,
is high.
> Jewell

I think Jewell understands what I am saying here. Only because I am diet and
exercise controlled do I need to keep my BG low, especially in the morning.
If it is high, it signals that I have not eaten properly (wrong foods that
caused too much of a spike, wrong timing/too late without a time for the rise to
lower before bedtime, for examples). Since I cannot take a pill to counteract
what I’ve done, I must make the best choices for myself via food, exercise,
rest and stress control. They are my only controlling factors for my health.
or I would think that doing the same thing would help others, as well. Why
wouldn’t it? I don’t know much about those on meds and insulin–but don’t you
take/alter medicine and insulin shots around what you’ve eaten and your numbers?
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Re: Incorrect information from Jewell

Saturday, December 25th, 2004

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Re: ALARMIST and ABSURD

Friday, December 24th, 2004

> —this was an explanation of simply what is for Ellie and my husband. They
> control theirdiabetes by diet and take no meds

No, it wasn’t a simple explanation. I asked specifically if you were
talking about your husband and Ellie, if it was a tip for THEM, when their blood
sugar went to 108 when it was usually 70-80, and you said NO. Shall I get
your prior emails and repost what you said? You need to clarify your
statements better. For you to say that generally speaking for most people a 108
fasting reading is high, is not only alarmist, but patently absurd.

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Re: Pot calling the kettle black

Friday, December 24th, 2004

> if you
> want to be kind rather than disagreeable.
>

I have never been unkind or disagreeable ….. you, on the other hand …..

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Re: every one’s comments

Wednesday, December 22nd, 2004

Thanks for all your comments, folks. I hope I didn’t start any trouble.

As for the neuropathy, when I was diagnosed last July, I had a A1C of 9.4 and
it took a while getting myself under control before I could even use a
glucometer. I had been having leg cramps in one leg and burning on the bottom
of my
feet but didn’t know what it was. So, I may well have had diabetes for a
while without realizing it. That would explain the neuropathy ‘early’ in my
disease.

I do think I am scared. I don’t want the complications of diabetes and am
trying as hard as I can to beat this thing as much as I can. This is my best
shot and I am trying to give it all I can. I would probably do better to relax
a bit. Stress does its own job on me (and all diabetics). Thank you for the
needed advice on that. I will try to chill out.
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Thanks for the info, Brian…

Wednesday, December 22nd, 2004

I *bet* the dr. wasn’t amused by your asking if it was his failure to
actually be helpful that was causing your depression! hehhe Thank you
for sharing that story and the information about the supplements.

**WARNING, WARNING**
DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU ARE ANTI-CURE OR ANTI-DR. CLARK!!

(Wouldn’t want anyone to suffer unnecessary doubt.. er I mean.. visual
abuse.. um.. thought abuse.. *ponders* What kind of cruelty would this
be, anyway?
Well, anyway, I just don’t want anyone to suffer from *any* form of
possible cruelty, poor helpless souls that we are.. can’t even delete a
post or anything… means all the rest of us have to take care of the
poor weaker helpless members by warning them not to read ANY FURTHER
lest cruelty happen, I guess!)
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Vasotec -Any opinions?

Monday, December 20th, 2004

OK. My kidneys are fine at this point, by the usual lab tests. My
doc wants to put me on a pharmaceutcal like ‘vasotec’, which inhibits
enzymes in one’s body necessary for vasoconstriction…Thus lowering
my blood pressure. He says there is evidence that even diabetics with
normal blood pressure (like me) benefit from this drug because it
increases blood flow through the kidneys, also extremeties…So it is
like a preventitive measure against possible future kidney
problems….I have a knee-jerk "Quick! Run!" response to suggestions
like this. In an effort to be ‘reasonable’ I thought I’d ask here if
any of you have been on a similar drug, and what you think about it.
Do/did you feel better on it? Any side effects? Are others amoung us
getting this line of reasoning pressed onto them from their
physicians? It’s really kind of comical - I get so nervous when I go
to the doctor that my blood pressure rises, so i test high in the
examining room. As soon as I get home I sit down and test again with
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Re: Welcome/comment from Kady and others

Wednesday, December 15th, 2004

Thanks for the welcome to the list. Kady, I did not mean to be rude about
Dr. Clark. I understand that some of you seem to be having good success with
her theories. I just wanted to note that I wasn’t interested in specific
advice for me. Of course, this list for every one to express his/her
experiences. That’s what lists are all about. Sorry for any confusion or
misunderstanding. We need to encourage and help each other.

I am concerned about 108 BG in the morning because it is high for me. In
order for me to stay where I need to be, I should be in the 80’s and 90’s in
the morning. My BG seems to elevate a bit during the day. To have 108 in
the morning is a bad sign. The only way I can control my BG is by my diet
and exercise so I must be concerned when it is up.

Information I have read in diabetes books say that ideal blood glucose target
ranges [for diabetics, not non-diabetics] are: before meals: 80 to 120; and
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