Hi Annie- You say your need for T3 shoots up in a day…How do you
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I have to say, I don’t have any experience with the insulin demand as
related to the t-3 levels. My experience is that my t-3 level rises
either because I am dealing with a lot of stress, have overeaten on
fatty/heavy starch-type foods, or I have let the parasite load get too
heavy again or all three. Since I have managed to catch things early
enough that I don’t take any kind of diatebes meds at all, and
anticipate I never will, I can’t be helpful at that level. = )
What I do know is the liver gets overloaded, whether medical science, in
their infinite wisdom, thinks so or not. I think if you can get some
liver cleansing done, you will find the t-3 thing should stablize. I am
very much for the whole idea of keeping things as simple as possible and
I am guessing many symptoms would lessen if the liver could do it’s job
without hinderance which means getting rid of toxins and parasites.
Modern ’science’ really likes to make things way complicated, I
suspect.. in part because they have no idea what is really going on, and
secondly, the more tests they can convince you you need, and the more
meds they can get you on, the better for them financially. And of course
consider all the money they can scare out us for research. What would
all these doctors do if we all started being as healthy as we should be?
Anyway, what Dr Clark postulates is that when our body get infested
heavily enough with parasites, the damage they do, plus all the waste
they create that our bodies have to process thru as well as our own,
makes it impossible for the organs, especially the liver, to do their
job properly and things like proper insulin absorbion and sufficent t-4
conversion start happening as the body does the best it can to just cope
with minimum survival level stuff.. And remember.. the parasites love a
sugar rich environment, and what better way to feed themselves royally
than to mess up the body’s ability to process sugar efficently? I am not
saying that it is a conspiracy or anything.. probably just evolutionary
pressure.. the parasites that did that are the ones that thrived and
reproduced and spread the best. Sorta like the white tail deer not
flashing their tails up anymore.. all the ones who did, got shot. The
ones who didn’t, survived to reproduce and now, no more flashing of the
white tail.
Not to be a naysayer or anything but I believe the more you give medical
science a chance to muck with things, the more things you are going to
need to fix later. They so focus on curing a single symtom, with little
to no concern for the whole picture.. if they can get your blood sugar
level to stabilize, that is all they care about. Never mind that now
your liver has gone into crisis because of the severe toxicity of the
meds or that you can’t breathe properly and catch every cold/flu that
comes along.. that is some other expert’s domain, and none of their
concern. Pretty scary really. I found that if I followed their
protocols I was just going from doctor to doctor trying to fix the
damage from what the previous doctors did.. a vicious downward spiral
that I really didn’t want to go even one step further with. I would
certainly advocate avoidance of that whole mindset. It isn’t good for
us; not at all.
Mary Jackson wrote:
Hi again Mary…
I just was over perusing the drhuldaclark.org website.. I was able to
get a copy of her book too, but have to go dig it out of my cd files
where I stored it after doing a full restore of my puter a month or so
back. On that website, what I believe to be a direct quote from her
book says "All diabetics have a common fluke parasite, Eurytrema
pancreaticum, the pancreatic fluke of cattle, in their own pancreas."
So perhaps there is. You can get such things from other humans who are
thusly infested.. doesn’t take cattle anymore, as she notes. She and
her associates treat all kinds of diabetes from my understanding, but I
will go dig the book out and make sure what is quoted on the website is
in fact what is said in her book. You can get crisis infestation at any
age if the toxicity level is right and like that other fellow noted, I
do think some serious stressor/life trauma may very well aggrevate the
toxicity level and immune resistance do to poorer overall body function
when it goes into high stress/fight or flight response mode.
As for the liver cleansing herbs, I did read somewhere (maybe
healingcafe.com?) that you should wait to use the milk thistle (for
protecting and keeping your liver clear) until you have your liver
mostly cleansed, that using it while doing the herbs that actually do
cleansing work causes a interference with their effectiveness. I did
stop taking the milk thistle as soon as I read that, but it was very
soon into my herbal cleanse, so I hadn’t really noticed if it made a
difference. And I would still recommend using all three not just one,
as each type tends to take out different kinds of toxins… and in a tea
form if she can stand them because most people don’t have the metobolism
to actually catalize some of the herbs (goldenseal being a big one
there) and so taking them as hot tea or with hot liquids can make all
the difference. I have had friends that tried goldenseal in particular
and had no effect until they did something to help that process out,
like taking it with even just a glass of hot water. After that, they
started singing it’s praises as loudly as me! hehhe It is a lot of the
reason many of the herbal flu remedies with echinacea and goldenseal in
them, also have the catalyast, cayanne pepper. If you are familar with
Aruvedic from India, they classify people into 3 basic body types (of
course with subtypes of those based on the three pulses on your wrist)..
much like our own version which has mesomophs, etc (can’t recall the
other two) If you are the pita type, as I am, metobolism isn’t usually
a problem.. we can digest a kitchen sink if we want! *smile* But of
course the pita body type has it’s own weaker areas, and that tends to
be more along the lines of heart disease, etc. Other body types though,
can have a real problem doing such power digestion.
November 6th, 2004 at 10:11 am
I have to say, I don’t have any experience with the insulin demand as
related to the t-3 levels. My experience is that my t-3 level rises
either because I am dealing with a lot of stress, have overeaten on
fatty/heavy starch-type foods, or I have let the parasite load get too
heavy again or all three. Since I have managed to catch things early
enough that I don’t take any kind of diatebes meds at all, and
anticipate I never will, I can’t be helpful at that level. = )
What I do know is the liver gets overloaded, whether medical science, in
their infinite wisdom, thinks so or not. I think if you can get some
liver cleansing done, you will find the t-3 thing should stablize. I am
very much for the whole idea of keeping things as simple as possible and
I am guessing many symptoms would lessen if the liver could do it’s job
without hinderance which means getting rid of toxins and parasites.
Modern ’science’ really likes to make things way complicated, I
suspect.. in part because they have no idea what is really going on, and
secondly, the more tests they can convince you you need, and the more
meds they can get you on, the better for them financially. And of course
consider all the money they can scare out us for research. What would
all these doctors do if we all started being as healthy as we should be?
Anyway, what Dr Clark postulates is that when our body get infested
heavily enough with parasites, the damage they do, plus all the waste
they create that our bodies have to process thru as well as our own,
makes it impossible for the organs, especially the liver, to do their
job properly and things like proper insulin absorbion and sufficent t-4
conversion start happening as the body does the best it can to just cope
with minimum survival level stuff.. And remember.. the parasites love a
sugar rich environment, and what better way to feed themselves royally
than to mess up the body’s ability to process sugar efficently? I am not
saying that it is a conspiracy or anything.. probably just evolutionary
pressure.. the parasites that did that are the ones that thrived and
reproduced and spread the best. Sorta like the white tail deer not
flashing their tails up anymore.. all the ones who did, got shot. The
ones who didn’t, survived to reproduce and now, no more flashing of the
white tail.
Not to be a naysayer or anything but I believe the more you give medical
science a chance to muck with things, the more things you are going to
need to fix later. They so focus on curing a single symtom, with little
to no concern for the whole picture.. if they can get your blood sugar
level to stabilize, that is all they care about. Never mind that now
your liver has gone into crisis because of the severe toxicity of the
meds or that you can’t breathe properly and catch every cold/flu that
comes along.. that is some other expert’s domain, and none of their
concern. Pretty scary really. I found that if I followed their
protocols I was just going from doctor to doctor trying to fix the
damage from what the previous doctors did.. a vicious downward spiral
that I really didn’t want to go even one step further with. I would
certainly advocate avoidance of that whole mindset. It isn’t good for
us; not at all.
Mary Jackson wrote:
November 7th, 2004 at 3:23 am
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November 7th, 2004 at 3:36 pm
Hi again Mary…
I just was over perusing the drhuldaclark.org website.. I was able to
get a copy of her book too, but have to go dig it out of my cd files
where I stored it after doing a full restore of my puter a month or so
back. On that website, what I believe to be a direct quote from her
book says "All diabetics have a common fluke parasite, Eurytrema
pancreaticum, the pancreatic fluke of cattle, in their own pancreas."
So perhaps there is. You can get such things from other humans who are
thusly infested.. doesn’t take cattle anymore, as she notes. She and
her associates treat all kinds of diabetes from my understanding, but I
will go dig the book out and make sure what is quoted on the website is
in fact what is said in her book. You can get crisis infestation at any
age if the toxicity level is right and like that other fellow noted, I
do think some serious stressor/life trauma may very well aggrevate the
toxicity level and immune resistance do to poorer overall body function
when it goes into high stress/fight or flight response mode.
As for the liver cleansing herbs, I did read somewhere (maybe
healingcafe.com?) that you should wait to use the milk thistle (for
protecting and keeping your liver clear) until you have your liver
mostly cleansed, that using it while doing the herbs that actually do
cleansing work causes a interference with their effectiveness. I did
stop taking the milk thistle as soon as I read that, but it was very
soon into my herbal cleanse, so I hadn’t really noticed if it made a
difference. And I would still recommend using all three not just one,
as each type tends to take out different kinds of toxins… and in a tea
form if she can stand them because most people don’t have the metobolism
to actually catalize some of the herbs (goldenseal being a big one
there) and so taking them as hot tea or with hot liquids can make all
the difference. I have had friends that tried goldenseal in particular
and had no effect until they did something to help that process out,
like taking it with even just a glass of hot water. After that, they
started singing it’s praises as loudly as me! hehhe It is a lot of the
reason many of the herbal flu remedies with echinacea and goldenseal in
them, also have the catalyast, cayanne pepper. If you are familar with
Aruvedic from India, they classify people into 3 basic body types (of
course with subtypes of those based on the three pulses on your wrist)..
much like our own version which has mesomophs, etc (can’t recall the
other two) If you are the pita type, as I am, metobolism isn’t usually
a problem.. we can digest a kitchen sink if we want! *smile* But of
course the pita body type has it’s own weaker areas, and that tends to
be more along the lines of heart disease, etc. Other body types though,
can have a real problem doing such power digestion.
Mary Jackson wrote: