Comments on: Re: WORM http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/ Some tips for diabetic, recipes and products. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:36:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10968 Dave Black Thu, 04 Nov 2004 05:08:14 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10968 yah.. as much as I hate to factor parasites in, when I did, it all started making a lot more sense to me. yah.. as much as I hate to factor parasites in, when I did, it all
started making a lot more sense to me.

]]> By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10967 Dave Black Wed, 03 Nov 2004 17:30:42 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10967 Yes, t-3 as in thyroid supplement... and I would start getting cramps in my calf muscles, my hair would start falling out (instead of a few, I would have a brushful) and my breathing become more difficult.. primarily noticable when I was trying to sustain singing notes. I just couldn't do more than a short held note.. since I love to sing, that was the most obnoxious symtom for me. If I leave it go and don't increase the t-3 abit (half a tablet will do usually) I start getting a chronic congestion in my throat that has me clearing it every couple minutes. Basically alot of the typical low thyroid function indicators. Yes, t-3 as in thyroid supplement… and I would start getting cramps in
my calf muscles, my hair would start falling out (instead of a few, I
would have a brushful) and my breathing become more difficult..
primarily noticable when I was trying to sustain singing notes. I just
couldn’t do more than a short held note.. since I love to sing, that was
the most obnoxious symtom for me. If I leave it go and don’t increase
the t-3 abit (half a tablet will do usually) I start getting a chronic
congestion in my throat that has me clearing it every couple minutes.
Basically alot of the typical low thyroid function indicators.

]]> By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10966 Dave Black Tue, 02 Nov 2004 23:38:07 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10966 Milk thistle is good for keeping and protecting the liver.. doesn't do much for cleaning though, and once I got my liver more clean, I did start using it. = ) Milk thistle is good for keeping and protecting the liver.. doesn’t do
much for cleaning though, and once I got my liver more clean, I did
start using it. = )

]]> By: John Smith http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10965 John Smith Tue, 02 Nov 2004 10:17:06 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10965 yes, most diabetics they say are low in magnesium, and the hair analysis I had a few months ago did show that I was slightly low. But I was interested in what the other person said about magnesium and the digestive system, and can't find that email again, would like to read it again.... because I've long had problems with digestion and now I supposed it's sort of like a puzzle fitting together.... low magnesium, bad digestion, worms ! eeww [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] yes, most diabetics they say are low in magnesium, and the hair analysis I
had a few months ago did show that I was slightly low. But I was interested
in what the other person said about magnesium and the digestive system, and
can’t find that email again, would like to read it again…. because I’ve
long had problems with digestion and now I supposed it’s sort of like a
puzzle fitting together…. low magnesium, bad digestion, worms ! eeww

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]]> By: John Smith http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10964 John Smith Tue, 02 Nov 2004 05:23:59 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10964 You are speaking of T-3 as in a thyroid supplement? And just curious, how do you know when your need for T-3 shoots up? (have I asked this before? sorry if I have). Kady [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] You are speaking of T-3 as in a thyroid supplement? And just curious,
how do you know when your need for T-3 shoots up? (have I asked this before?
sorry if I have).
Kady

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]]> By: John Smith http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10963 John Smith Mon, 01 Nov 2004 20:20:35 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10963 > The herbs burdock root, yellowdock root and dandilion root together do > a great job of liver cleansing.. I thought milk thistle was supposed to be "theee" herb for the liver. Have you ever used it? Kady [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > The herbs burdock root, yellowdock root and dandilion root together do
> a great job of liver cleansing..

I thought milk thistle was supposed to be "theee" herb for the liver.
Have you ever used it?
Kady

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]]> By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10962 Dave Black Mon, 01 Nov 2004 03:40:10 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10962 I am guessing anything that makes your body more sugar rich feeds the worms, so low good stuff, high bad stuff and diabetes is just the cat's meow for them for sure. Usually what seems the key factor though is some sort of toxicity, which is way too common in our society unfortunately. Otherwise they can't live out their full life cycles inside the human body without the intermediary host.. as in the case of the sheep pancreatic fluke.. it can now do away with the sheep step entirely. It seems Dr. Clark is quite convinced that without the toxcity, the worms wouldn't be so able to wander around the body, and be more confined to just the digestive system and although damaging there, not nearly as devastating as worms in other places are. The herbs burdock root, yellowdock root and dandilion root together do a great job of liver cleansing.. but not a thing for parasites, as far as I could see. But if your daughter is so liver impaired that she <!--more--> needs t-3, I wouldn't even suggest she overload it further trying to process out dead or dying parasites at the same time.. hence my recommendation to do the liver cleanse first.. see if you can get her need for t-3 down.. once you have, then definitely do a full 2 week parasite cleanse as recommended by the Clark Protocol. For the moment, I would say cut back on anything else she can do without and really focus on that liver cleansing stuff. I pretty much had to stop doing everything but the liver cleanse herbs and the t-3 for a while there. Every time I tried to add something, my need for t-3 shot up within 24 hours. So, while I don't know if that could be an indicator for everyone, it did keep me on track pretty well. Mary Jackson wrote: I am guessing anything that makes your body more sugar rich feeds the
worms, so low good stuff, high bad stuff and diabetes is just the cat’s
meow for them for sure. Usually what seems the key factor though is
some sort of toxicity, which is way too common in our society
unfortunately. Otherwise they can’t live out their full life cycles
inside the human body without the intermediary host.. as in the case of
the sheep pancreatic fluke.. it can now do away with the sheep step
entirely. It seems Dr. Clark is quite convinced that without the
toxcity, the worms wouldn’t be so able to wander around the body, and be
more confined to just the digestive system and although damaging there,
not nearly as devastating as worms in other places are.

The herbs burdock root, yellowdock root and dandilion root together do
a great job of liver cleansing.. but not a thing for parasites, as far
as I could see. But if your daughter is so liver impaired that she

needs t-3, I wouldn’t even suggest she overload it further trying to
process out dead or dying parasites at the same time.. hence my
recommendation to do the liver cleanse first.. see if you can get her
need for t-3 down.. once you have, then definitely do a full 2 week
parasite cleanse as recommended by the Clark Protocol. For the moment,
I would say cut back on anything else she can do without and really
focus on that liver cleansing stuff. I pretty much had to stop doing
everything but the liver cleanse herbs and the t-3 for a while there.
Every time I tried to add something, my need for t-3 shot up within 24
hours. So, while I don’t know if that could be an indicator for
everyone, it did keep me on track pretty well.

Mary Jackson wrote:

]]> By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10961 Dave Black Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:11:34 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10961 I do recall hearing something like that as well. What Dr. Clark recommends for those deep bowel things is ozonated olive oil.. it probaby has very similar qualities, but the typical ozonator runs about 200 dollars online. I have heard you can get them cheaper at a tropical fish store, but haven't checked that out yet. I do recall hearing something like that as well. What Dr. Clark
recommends for those deep bowel things is ozonated olive oil.. it
probaby has very similar qualities, but the typical ozonator runs about
200 dollars online. I have heard you can get them cheaper at a tropical
fish store, but haven’t checked that out yet.

]]> By: John Smith http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10960 John Smith Sun, 31 Oct 2004 07:26:22 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10960 I do think if you do a day of 2 caps 2 times a day before of goldenseal and echinacea purpura before you start the cleanse, and continue them thru the first 2 or three days of the parasite cleanse, you should be able to head those virus and bacteria off at the pass... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I do think if you do a day of 2 caps 2 times a day before of goldenseal and
echinacea purpura before you start the cleanse, and continue them thru the
first 2 or three days of the parasite cleanse, you should be able to head
those
virus and bacteria off at the pass…

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]]> By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10959 Dave Black Sat, 30 Oct 2004 21:29:39 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/10/30/re-worm/#comment-10959 Hi Kady... Doesn't surprise me at all.. And yah it is so gross.. truly! And I am sure, if that one big one was in there, there are gobs of littler ones. I am glad though that you got to see, for yourself, that this isn't something Dr. Clark is just making up. We do have a serious problem with parasites here, in part because of our medical community's unwillingness to deal with that for whatever reason. I suspect a lot of the doctors who really do mean well, are just not going to be able to admit that, all this time, they have actually been making their patients sicker. They have a lot invested in hanging on to the belief that they are helping.. it would be very appalling to really accept the whole parasite/toxicity issue as a doctor because you would then have to realize just how much you were, even with good intentions, making things worse.. killing people even! Seems the guilt would be killer! Anyway, I would definitely advise you get onto the Clark protocol with <!--more--> the black walnut hull/cloves/wormwood mixture along with zapping. The goldenseal doesn't do a whole lot in the way of parasite killing actually.. I have used it frequently over the years as a antibacterial, and still had a serious parasite infestation that doing the full protocol really helped clear. And yes, doing the herbs alone, or the zapping alone can leave you vulernable to a bad cold the first time you do a serious cleanse. But like I said to Mary, I do think if you do a day of 2 caps 2 times a day before of goldenseal and echinacea purpura before you start the cleanse, and continue them thru the first 2 or three days of the parasite cleanse, you should be able to head those virus and bacteria off at the pass... In fact I might recommend doing that even with a zapper and the herbs. My first time doing it, I didn't have the zapper and got a nasty cold which I could fight off with echincea/goldenseal, but I think if I had started it before hand, it would have been easier to stop. Hi Kady…
Doesn’t surprise me at all.. And yah it is so gross.. truly! And I am
sure, if that one big one was in there, there are gobs of littler ones.
I am glad though that you got to see, for yourself, that this isn’t
something Dr. Clark is just making up. We do have a serious problem with
parasites here, in part because of our medical community’s unwillingness
to deal with that for whatever reason. I suspect a lot of the doctors
who really do mean well, are just not going to be able to admit that,
all this time, they have actually been making their patients sicker.
They have a lot invested in hanging on to the belief that they are
helping.. it would be very appalling to really accept the whole
parasite/toxicity issue as a doctor because you would then have to
realize just how much you were, even with good intentions, making things
worse.. killing people even! Seems the guilt would be killer!
Anyway, I would definitely advise you get onto the Clark protocol with

the black walnut hull/cloves/wormwood mixture along with zapping. The
goldenseal doesn’t do a whole lot in the way of parasite killing
actually.. I have used it frequently over the years as a antibacterial,
and still had a serious parasite infestation that doing the full
protocol really helped clear. And yes, doing the herbs alone, or the
zapping alone can leave you vulernable to a bad cold the first time you
do a serious cleanse. But like I said to Mary, I do think if you do a
day of 2 caps 2 times a day before of goldenseal and echinacea purpura
before you start the cleanse, and continue them thru the first 2 or
three days of the parasite cleanse, you should be able to head those
virus and bacteria off at the pass… In fact I might recommend doing
that even with a zapper and the herbs. My first time doing it, I didn’t
have the zapper and got a nasty cold which I could fight off with
echincea/goldenseal, but I think if I had started it before hand, it
would have been easier to stop.

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