Comments on: For Michael and Jewell ! BYE, Y’all! http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/ Some tips for diabetic, recipes and products. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:18:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10901 Dave Black Fri, 03 Sep 2004 06:06:18 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10901 Thanks for the reply, Linda.. yes, the cleansing helps loads.. gets those toxins out of there, I think. And I do agree.. there are a good number of well-intentioned doctors who live in the dark about the alternative medicines because of all the PR the drug companies put out there... after all, can't sell antibotics if everyone knew goldenseal worked as good or better, wasn't toxic (other than in the processing maybe) and didn't have to manufactured. *shrug* Actually I did read somewhere that alternative medical stuff outsold the precription drugs nowadays. So either the drug companies are gonna lobby to get the health food/natural supplements industry shut down (they have been trying) or they are gonna jump on the band wagon and start selling their toxic versions of it and demand it be regulated and put under their control. I don't see either way being good for us health minded consumers! Linda wrote: Thanks for the reply, Linda.. yes, the cleansing helps loads.. gets
those toxins out of there, I think. And I do agree.. there are a good
number of well-intentioned doctors who live in the dark about the
alternative medicines because of all the PR the drug companies put out
there… after all, can’t sell antibotics if everyone knew goldenseal
worked as good or better, wasn’t toxic (other than in the processing
maybe) and didn’t have to manufactured. *shrug* Actually I did read
somewhere that alternative medical stuff outsold the precription drugs
nowadays. So either the drug companies are gonna lobby to get the
health food/natural supplements industry shut down (they have been
trying) or they are gonna jump on the band wagon and start selling their
toxic versions of it and demand it be regulated and put under their
control. I don’t see either way being good for us health minded consumers!

Linda wrote:

]]> By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10900 Dave Black Thu, 02 Sep 2004 17:29:13 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10900 Thanks Lynn... I am happy to share what I have found to be true for me (of course)! But since I am human, I kinda assume it might have some validity for other humans as well, so I pass it along. I hadn't heard that about that particular insulin, but that sounds very nasty! Yikes.. the traditional medical solutions sound worse than the actual problem! I would have a very hard time wanting to put that crap in me! Luckily I never will have to. *smile* Lynn Wendt wrote: Thanks Lynn… I am happy to share what I have found to be true for me
(of course)! But since I am human, I kinda assume it might have some
validity for other humans as well, so I pass it along. I hadn’t heard
that about that particular insulin, but that sounds very nasty! Yikes..
the traditional medical solutions sound worse than the actual problem!
I would have a very hard time wanting to put that crap in me! Luckily
I never will have to. *smile*

Lynn Wendt wrote:

]]> By: Endy King http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10898 Endy King Wed, 01 Sep 2004 09:09:32 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10898 I've had a lot of help from 'cleansing' efforts too (I'm type-1) Colon cleansing was really useful - lessened my insulin requirement by maybe 1/3...I agree about not trusting people who stand to earn huge returns on your chronic illness...Though I think there are some well intentioned doctors who aloow too much of their education to I’ve had a lot of help from ‘cleansing’ efforts too (I’m type-1)
Colon cleansing was really useful - lessened my insulin requirement
by maybe 1/3…I agree about not trusting people who stand to earn
huge returns on your chronic illness…Though I think there are some
well intentioned doctors who aloow too much of their education to

]]> By: Endy Smith http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10897 Endy Smith Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:06:00 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10897 Annie, thank you for including some wonderful, personal information that I find very encouraging. To add to the comments about diabetes medication, there is metacresol in NPH insulin as a preservative. It is a caustic chemical from India which burns the skin and can cause blindness if gotten into the eyes. You can call Lilly company to confirm it and get on the web and do a search on metacresol. Lynn Hum.. I am not sure I am even posting to this group having gotten not a single response to my previous posts. Just wanted to say though, unlike you apparently, Jewell, I am having quite good luck with Dr. Clark's protocol. I don't have a syncrometer as of yet, so can't really tell the level of toxicity in my food or in my thyroid medication, and suspect that there must be some methanol <!--more--> (wood alcohol) in there somewhere, because like that one couple's daughter, I need to do the deworming process every 3 to 4 days, versus the week Dr Clark recommends. Once you have those flukes in your pancreas, it appears that zero toxicity in wood alcohol is a must. But still by just zapping every other day, deworming every 4 days or so, doing my best to avoid the obvious sources of methol like artificial sweeteners, bottled water, and soda pop and doing a minimun of processed foods, my blood suger never gets over 110 in the morning. Usually it is 95 or so. So I tell people about Dr. Clark's protocol, GLADLY!. I don't recommend anything else.. nothing else worked this well!. So call it preaching the word of the devil if you must, but since I am shooting for a cure, I am not going to waste my time with anything else. And one thing you all should be aware of (but which I have yet to hear even mentioned here!) is most diabetes medications (unless you have had it tested) is VERY high in methanol. It is used as a preservative! *rolls eyes* Talk about self serving interests, geez! As for the master cleanser diet.. it works really well.. I have done it 3 times now, once for 19 days. Felt very good while doing it although I really missed being able to chew on food but boy oh boy the stuff I cleared out! The hard part was the emotional void not eating left in my life! Sure showed me how much I comfort myself with food, for sure. But anyway, my only recommendation beyond what the writer of the program says is be even more careful to come off it slowly (believe me, you really want to chow down on something besides lemon juice and maple syrup after a while and it is very tempting to stuff yourself silly!). It can definitely damage your stomach lining if you return to rough foods too soon. (yah, that is the voice of experience here!) Think of it like having long finger nails and cutting them.. how tender the skin is underneath.. same with your stomach lining. Also, I have had fine luck taking cayanne capsules versus adding it to the drink. That made it taste very nasty! And by all means, do that internal saline bath he recommends.. otherwise you are just reabsorbing all those toxins! Also I plan on doing a liver cleanse next.. poor misguided soul that I might be.. I just have the feeling that when you pass all those liver and gall stones, you must be doing something good for yourself. I very rarely find any medical professional at any level who will validate the old time tested methodology for self healing (wouldn't need doctors that much, now would we???) but by golly if I am ever in a car accident, they are the fellows I want to see. The current western medicine paradigm is great for emergency care.. it sucks for holistic care. Maybe they will get a clue when we all start saying "enough already.. I am taking care of my own health". I say when it comes to your health, trust your body.. trust your instincts.. and don't trust someone who makes a lot of money off of your being ill. Jewell Elizabeth wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Annie, thank you for including some wonderful, personal information that I find
very encouraging. To add to the comments about diabetes medication, there is
metacresol in NPH insulin as a preservative. It is a caustic chemical from
India which burns the skin and can cause blindness if gotten into the eyes. You
can call Lilly company to confirm it and get on the web and do a search on
metacresol.

Lynn

Hum.. I am not sure I am even posting to this group having gotten not a
single response to my previous posts.
Just wanted to say though, unlike you apparently, Jewell, I am having
quite good luck with Dr. Clark’s protocol. I don’t have a syncrometer
as of yet, so can’t really tell the level of toxicity in my food or in
my thyroid medication, and suspect that there must be some methanol

(wood alcohol) in there somewhere, because like that one couple’s
daughter, I need to do the deworming process every 3 to 4 days, versus
the week Dr Clark recommends. Once you have those flukes in your
pancreas, it appears that zero toxicity in wood alcohol is a must. But
still by just zapping every other day, deworming every 4 days or so,
doing my best to avoid the obvious sources of methol like artificial
sweeteners, bottled water, and soda pop and doing a minimun of processed
foods, my blood suger never gets over 110 in the morning. Usually it is
95 or so.
So I tell people about Dr. Clark’s protocol, GLADLY!. I don’t recommend
anything else.. nothing else worked this well!. So call it preaching the
word of the devil if you must, but since I am shooting for a cure, I am
not going to waste my time with anything else.
And one thing you all should be aware of (but which I have yet to hear
even mentioned here!) is most diabetes medications (unless you have had
it tested) is VERY high in methanol. It is used as a preservative!
*rolls eyes* Talk about self serving interests, geez!
As for the master cleanser diet.. it works really well.. I have done it
3 times now, once for 19 days. Felt very good while doing it although I
really missed being able to chew on food but boy oh boy the stuff I
cleared out! The hard part was the emotional void not eating left in my
life! Sure showed me how much I comfort myself with food, for sure.
But anyway, my only recommendation beyond what the writer of the program
says is be even more careful to come off it slowly (believe me, you
really want to chow down on something besides lemon juice and maple
syrup after a while and it is very tempting to stuff yourself silly!).
It can definitely damage your stomach lining if you return to rough
foods too soon. (yah, that is the voice of experience here!) Think of it
like having long finger nails and cutting them.. how tender the skin is
underneath.. same with your stomach lining. Also, I have had fine luck
taking cayanne capsules versus adding it to the drink. That made it
taste very nasty! And by all means, do that internal saline bath he
recommends.. otherwise you are just reabsorbing all those toxins!
Also I plan on doing a liver cleanse next.. poor misguided soul that I
might be.. I just have the feeling that when you pass all those liver
and gall stones, you must be doing something good for yourself. I very
rarely find any medical professional at any level who will validate the
old time tested methodology for self healing (wouldn’t need doctors that
much, now would we???) but by golly if I am ever in a car accident, they
are the fellows I want to see. The current western medicine paradigm is
great for emergency care.. it sucks for holistic care. Maybe they will
get a clue when we all start saying "enough already.. I am taking care
of my own health". I say when it comes to your health, trust your body..
trust your instincts.. and don’t trust someone who makes a lot of money
off of your being ill.

Jewell Elizabeth wrote:

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

]]> By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10894 Dave Black Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:14:19 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10894 Hum.. I am not sure I am even posting to this group having gotten not a single response to my previous posts. Just wanted to say though, unlike you apparently, Jewell, I am having quite good luck with Dr. Clark's protocol. I don't have a syncrometer as of yet, so can't really tell the level of toxicity in my food or in my thyroid medication, and suspect that there must be some methanol (wood alcohol) in there somewhere, because like that one couple's daughter, I need to do the deworming process every 3 to 4 days, versus the week Dr Clark recommends. Once you have those flukes in your pancreas, it appears that zero toxicity in wood alcohol is a must. But still by just zapping every other day, deworming every 4 days or so, doing my best to avoid the obvious sources of methol like artificial sweeteners, bottled water, and soda pop and doing a minimun of processed foods, my blood suger never gets over 110 in the morning. Usually it is 95 or so. <!--more--> So I tell people about Dr. Clark's protocol, GLADLY!. I don't recommend anything else.. nothing else worked this well!. So call it preaching the word of the devil if you must, but since I am shooting for a cure, I am not going to waste my time with anything else. And one thing you all should be aware of (but which I have yet to hear even mentioned here!) is most diabetes medications (unless you have had it tested) is VERY high in methanol. It is used as a preservative! *rolls eyes* Talk about self serving interests, geez! As for the master cleanser diet.. it works really well.. I have done it 3 times now, once for 19 days. Felt very good while doing it although I really missed being able to chew on food but boy oh boy the stuff I cleared out! The hard part was the emotional void not eating left in my life! Sure showed me how much I comfort myself with food, for sure. But anyway, my only recommendation beyond what the writer of the program says is be even more careful to come off it slowly (believe me, you really want to chow down on something besides lemon juice and maple syrup after a while and it is very tempting to stuff yourself silly!). It can definitely damage your stomach lining if you return to rough foods too soon. (yah, that is the voice of experience here!) Think of it like having long finger nails and cutting them.. how tender the skin is underneath.. same with your stomach lining. Also, I have had fine luck taking cayanne capsules versus adding it to the drink. That made it taste very nasty! And by all means, do that internal saline bath he recommends.. otherwise you are just reabsorbing all those toxins! Also I plan on doing a liver cleanse next.. poor misguided soul that I might be.. I just have the feeling that when you pass all those liver and gall stones, you must be doing something good for yourself. I very rarely find any medical professional at any level who will validate the old time tested methodology for self healing (wouldn't need doctors that much, now would we???) but by golly if I am ever in a car accident, they are the fellows I want to see. The current western medicine paradigm is great for emergency care.. it sucks for holistic care. Maybe they will get a clue when we all start saying "enough already.. I am taking care of my own health". I say when it comes to your health, trust your body.. trust your instincts.. and don't trust someone who makes a lot of money off of your being ill. Jewell Elizabeth wrote: Hum.. I am not sure I am even posting to this group having gotten not a
single response to my previous posts.
Just wanted to say though, unlike you apparently, Jewell, I am having
quite good luck with Dr. Clark’s protocol. I don’t have a syncrometer
as of yet, so can’t really tell the level of toxicity in my food or in
my thyroid medication, and suspect that there must be some methanol
(wood alcohol) in there somewhere, because like that one couple’s
daughter, I need to do the deworming process every 3 to 4 days, versus
the week Dr Clark recommends. Once you have those flukes in your
pancreas, it appears that zero toxicity in wood alcohol is a must. But
still by just zapping every other day, deworming every 4 days or so,
doing my best to avoid the obvious sources of methol like artificial
sweeteners, bottled water, and soda pop and doing a minimun of processed
foods, my blood suger never gets over 110 in the morning. Usually it is
95 or so.

So I tell people about Dr. Clark’s protocol, GLADLY!. I don’t recommend
anything else.. nothing else worked this well!. So call it preaching the
word of the devil if you must, but since I am shooting for a cure, I am
not going to waste my time with anything else.
And one thing you all should be aware of (but which I have yet to hear
even mentioned here!) is most diabetes medications (unless you have had
it tested) is VERY high in methanol. It is used as a preservative!
*rolls eyes* Talk about self serving interests, geez!
As for the master cleanser diet.. it works really well.. I have done it
3 times now, once for 19 days. Felt very good while doing it although I
really missed being able to chew on food but boy oh boy the stuff I
cleared out! The hard part was the emotional void not eating left in my
life! Sure showed me how much I comfort myself with food, for sure.
But anyway, my only recommendation beyond what the writer of the program
says is be even more careful to come off it slowly (believe me, you
really want to chow down on something besides lemon juice and maple
syrup after a while and it is very tempting to stuff yourself silly!).
It can definitely damage your stomach lining if you return to rough
foods too soon. (yah, that is the voice of experience here!) Think of it
like having long finger nails and cutting them.. how tender the skin is
underneath.. same with your stomach lining. Also, I have had fine luck
taking cayanne capsules versus adding it to the drink. That made it
taste very nasty! And by all means, do that internal saline bath he
recommends.. otherwise you are just reabsorbing all those toxins!
Also I plan on doing a liver cleanse next.. poor misguided soul that I
might be.. I just have the feeling that when you pass all those liver
and gall stones, you must be doing something good for yourself. I very
rarely find any medical professional at any level who will validate the
old time tested methodology for self healing (wouldn’t need doctors that
much, now would we???) but by golly if I am ever in a car accident, they
are the fellows I want to see. The current western medicine paradigm is
great for emergency care.. it sucks for holistic care. Maybe they will
get a clue when we all start saying "enough already.. I am taking care
of my own health". I say when it comes to your health, trust your body..
trust your instincts.. and don’t trust someone who makes a lot of money
off of your being ill.

Jewell Elizabeth wrote:

]]> By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10891 Dave Black Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:06:49 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10891 I am not impressed with your quote below, the one about God.....Who are you to cast a judgement upon me......."Shame on me" stick in your nose. I am not impressed with your quote below, the one
about God…..Who are you to cast a judgement upon
me……."Shame on me" stick in your nose.

]]> By: John King http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10890 John King Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:05:17 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10890 Jewell and Michael, I hope your happy. Very negative vibes from the both of you. Shame on you. If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it. -------Original Message------- Dear Michael, You are entitled to your opinion! This is a free country! I have NEVER said I possess "the true source of all knowledge" - I am an intelligent inquirer ON THE PATH. And yes, I HAVE helped thousands of people, it's what I best love doing. I have NEVER charged for my advice or counsel...so I DO resent your allegation that I do so. MANY people on this list can attest <!--more--> to the numerous letters of advice I have written to them trying to help. I am a diabetic HELPING DIABETICS. I have (through my contacts in India) worldwide rights to an exclusive product to benefit diabetics. You can all learn MORE about it from the COMPANY's website, www.gourdin.com. I am proud of that affiliation. It also brings me literally dozens of people each week whom I can help! Michael, I don't really know WHY you decided to write this note, but you don't bother me one bit. The people whom I am privileged to help recognize it for what it's worth. You DID help me decide whether I need to put up with this kind of noxious crap, though. Hi Linda, I have read some of your emails about your remedies and I would say that I have researched those that I felt would benefit me. That is a plus for you.....However your are pounding your chest and telling us how great your are , your years of experiendce, and your knowledge and how you make your living from your knowledge.... Nothing wrong with that except during my lfie I have seen enough to tell me when to beware...... I have seen all kinds of soothsayers, religious, medical, stockbrokers and the like all profess themselves to be the true source of knowledge and they suck alot of people out of one thing - their money-- This site was designed for diabetics helping diabetics, so if you have some advice we can use please let us know, but don't charge us..... Thanks Michael- By reading the messages of this group you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Have a nice day ! Jewell and Michael,
I hope your happy. Very negative vibes from the both of you. Shame on
you.

If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.

——-Original Message——-

Dear Michael,

You are entitled to your opinion! This is a free country! I have NEVER
said I possess "the true source of all knowledge" - I am an intelligent
inquirer ON THE PATH. And yes, I HAVE helped thousands of people, it’s
what I best love doing. I have NEVER charged for my advice or counsel…so I
DO resent your allegation that I do so. MANY people on this list can attest

to the numerous letters of advice I have written to them trying to help.

I am a diabetic HELPING DIABETICS. I have (through my contacts in India)
worldwide rights to an exclusive product to benefit diabetics. You can all
learn MORE about it from the COMPANY’s website, www.gourdin.com. I am
proud of that affiliation. It also brings me literally dozens of people
each week whom I can help!

Michael, I don’t really know WHY you decided to write this note, but you
don’t bother me one bit. The people whom I am privileged to help recognize
it for what it’s worth. You DID help me decide whether I need to put up
with this kind of noxious crap, though.

Hi Linda,

I have read some of your emails about your remedies
and I would say that I have researched those that I
felt would benefit me. That is a plus for
you…..However your are pounding your chest and
telling us how great your are , your years of
experiendce, and your knowledge and how you make your
living from your knowledge….

Nothing wrong with that except during my lfie I have
seen enough to tell me when to beware……

I have seen all kinds of soothsayers, religious,
medical, stockbrokers and the like all profess
themselves to be the true source of knowledge and they
suck alot of people out of one thing - their money–

This site was designed for diabetics helping
diabetics, so if you have some advice we can use
please let us know, but don’t charge us…..

Thanks
Michael-

By reading the messages of this group you agree to hold yourself FULLY
responsible FOR yourself.
Have a nice day !

]]> By: Dave Black http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10887 Dave Black Tue, 24 Aug 2004 00:51:29 +0000 http://diabetes.pocket-book.com/2004/08/23/for-michael-and-jewell-bye-y-all/#comment-10887 Me does think she protesth TOOO loudly, eh? Guilty feelings tend to do that sort of thing I find. Linda Yates wrote: Me does think she protesth TOOO loudly, eh? Guilty feelings tend to do
that sort of thing I find.

Linda Yates wrote:

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